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August 1st, 2000

Lucid Dreaming

This is probably more appropriate for Fluffypillow, but I figured I’d present it here anyway.

Have you ever been dreaming and while in that state, realized you were dreaming? This is called lucid dreaming and can be an incredible experience if you can hold onto your dream state while still realizing that you are, in fact, dreaming.

As I’m sure you know, dreams can be extremely vivid — often so real that when you wake up it takes a few moments before you can convince yourself that you’re not dreaming anymore. But, there are a number of books, web sites, and discussion groups dedicated to the art of lucid dreaming, where once you become aware that you’re dreaming, you take control of your dreams. You can fly, talk to people who have died, anything you can imagine. Granted, you aren’t actually doing any of these things, but being able to combine the vivid, life-like nature of most dreams with the endless bounds of your imagination can be a pretty damn cool thing.

When I was in high school I first learned of lucid dreaming and began to learn how to do it. I had a number of lucid dreams — in one of them I was arguing with a man about who could jump higher. As I was arguing with him, I realized I was dreaming (how, I don’t remember, but there are a number of signposts that help you realize you’re dreaming). So, I decided to bet him a large amount of money that I could jump over a 20 foot fence, because, hey, I knew I was dreaming, but he didn’t! He agreed to the bet. Before I won my money from him, I decided to try something — I asked the man his name. His name was so good, that eight years later I still laugh at it every time I think of it:

Pal Friendie.

What a name. 🙂 As I said, I had a number of other lucid dreams in high school, but that was the most memorable (though the one where I ran through my high school throwing pies at people, with the floors covered in jelly beans and candy, was pretty cool).

Recently, I decided to try to dream lucidly again. I picked up a couple books and have started keeping a dream journal, as is suggested. As a side note, that’s something I’d recommend to all people — when you read back over the dreams you’ve had, you’ll be surprised at the number of recurring themes there are. My most frequently recurring theme? Computer football games.

In any event, the other morning I had my first lucid dream since high school. It was a pretty cool experience, even though I was only able to remain asleep for a few seconds after I became aware. In my dream I was upstairs in my house (in reality, I had fallen asleep on the couch watching, what else, Family Ties). But even though I was upstairs, I noticed I could still hear the TV from downstairs as if it were in the same room. I realized that I was dreaming and that the sound of the TV had worked its way into my dream. So, I decided to try something that would prove to me that I was dreaming. One of the techniques I learned in high school was to pick up a piece of paper or a book that has writing on it, read it, look away, then look back and read it again. If you’re dreaming, what you read will be different each time you look at it.

So, I picked up a book and looked at the words (one of them was a nonsense word, something along the lines of “vomitaurus”), and even before I could look away and look back, the words started to fade and morph. Extremely cool. So, upon this proof that I was dreaming, I decided to try something that I knew I couldn’t do in real life. Unfortunately, the story ends here, as I don’t remember what I decided to do and I know I woke up shortly afterwards.

Has anyone else dreamed lucidly? Any especially cool experiences? -ram

Posted in Everyday Life

FROM: liz
DATE: Tuesday August 1, 2000 -- 1:35:55AM
i have lucid dreams occasionally; the best one ever is where i was lucid dreaming inside a lucid dream. basically, i realized i was dreaming, woke myself up, realized i was *still* dreaming, and woke myself up again. apparently, i was several levels down in my consciousness.

FROM: Ryan
DATE: Tuesday August 1, 2000 -- 9:17:16AM
Wow... very cool, Liz. Was the vividness of the dream changed between the two levels?

FROM: Pal Friendie
DATE: Tuesday August 1, 2000 -- 10:46:13AM
Just you wait, Ryan MacMichael. I'll win that money back from you some day! Whippersnapper...

FROM: Aaron
DATE: Tuesday August 1, 2000 -- 7:22:10PM
Zounds! I had a lucid dream last night. The dream would have been quite frightening except for I knew it was a dream. I even made the comment in the dream that I would be scrared out of my wits if I didn't know I was dreaming.

FROM: Ryan
DATE: Tuesday August 1, 2000 -- 8:36:55PM
No kidding, Aaron? What was the dream about?

FROM: Robert
DATE: Tuesday August 1, 2000 -- 8:58:33PM
When I was in high school I had a dream that I was in a parking garage and the fire alarm was going off. That's how my 6am wake up call manifested itself.

FROM: Aaron
DATE: Wednesday August 2, 2000 -- 1:55:39PM
I don't remember it very well a day later. It had an overall haunted-house theme to it, with your typical dark-haired, pale skinned mistress of the house. I think I was protecting my father from evil spirits in the house or something. That's about all I can remember now.

FROM: t3r3ssa
DATE: Sunday October 12, 2003 -- 11:56:54 pm
I have those kind of dreams too. I had a repeat dream of a gorilla chasing everyone and even though I knew I was dreaming I was still running from it like I was playing my part or something. I told a lady nearby not to worry because I had this dream before and no one gets hurt.

FROM: Sitting in the Sun
DATE: Wednesday October 15, 2003 -- 1:06:13 pm
I annihilated an Ugly woman,
then raped a pretty one.
Slapped a Woman in the Face,
then raped a ten year old asian.
Threw a passing bus in the Air,
Killing everyone.

Walked through the the bus wall, repairing it instantly, and once inside,
rode it through the city,
looking for people to rape.

FROM: Ryan
DATE: Wednesday October 15, 2003 -- 2:08:34 pm
Note to self: never, ever meet "Sitting in the Sun" in person.

FROM: Aaron [E-Mail]
DATE: Saturday December 13, 2003 -- 4:02:08 pm
Lucid dreaming in the news...

FROM: t3r3ssa
DATE: Monday May 17, 2004 -- 10:00:57 pm
Ryan -- would you rather meetin sitting in the sun in your dream?

FROM: Animat3d
DATE: Tuesday May 18, 2004 -- 1:59:09 pm
dreams are something we see but is not really there. just like an illusion. but while your sleeping. its a wonderfull thing. dreams are what make the imaganation possible. without dreams, where would the human imaganation be today?

FROM: Zack
DATE: Monday September 27, 2004 -- 4:56:11 am
What is the deal with Sitting in the Sun? Given that the comment is presumably typed in while fully awake, it doesn't sound like lucid dreaming, but rather something far more frightening.

I have this lucid dream where I am talking randomly to this ugly chick that I don't even like and only met once, Rebecca Ruvich I think her name was. I wish I could have a lucid dream with someone who is at least attractive. What's up with that?

FROM: t3r3ssa
DATE: Sunday December 12, 2004 -- 12:27:09 pm
i did a search for my id online and found this site i visited a while back. heh. i've done some pretty shameful things in my dreams. sometimes i am inside of other people's bodies. and once i raped and killed myself. i didn't realize it was myself until i picked up the body. that has to be the freakiest dream i've ever had.

FROM: sitting under a blood moon
DATE: Tuesday December 28, 2004 -- 10:05:33 pm
when i lucid dream my personality seems altered. i commit acts i never would in reality. unfortunately they normally end the dream. i want to learn more and stay in but the urge is too strong. sitting in the suns dream is nothing.

FROM: t3r3ssa
DATE: Wednesday December 29, 2004 -- 1:48:32 pm
I think a lucid dream is when you know you're dreaming, right? That would be the majority of my dreams. There is always something off that tells me it is a dream. Like someone healthy who is actually sick, or a picture on the wall that you know is not there in reality. But then it's fun to go on dreaming anyway. -- It's when I don't realize that I'm dreaming that it is scary. Because I dream that I wake up from my dream that I know I'm having. I think I woke up, but I didn't really. It's like a trick or something. But then I know when I really wake up b/c a door is closed that was open or some clue like that.

FROM: t3r3ssa
DATE: Wednesday December 29, 2004 -- 1:52:23 pm
I split this in two b/c I don't know what the word limit is here. But I don't know what this kind of dreaming is called. It usually takes place in the room I am actually in which is what makes it seem like I really woke up. Because I will dream that I woke up and I'm still lying in bed, but there is a presence in the room. Either I can feel it or I can see something like a spirit or a grim reaper figure. And these dreams are always short and I never forget them b/c it doesn't happen often. They leave quite an impression. Because I feel like something is communicating with me, or I am communicating with something, but at the same time I know it could be me communicating with other parts of myself.

FROM: t3r3ssa
DATE: Wednesday December 29, 2004 -- 2:02:40 pm
Hope your not bored yet, but I find these dreams fascinating, even though they aren't actually Lucid ones. And although they have a certain thrill factor, they usually aren't terrifying, b/c I usually have influence over the fearful or intimidating presence in my dreams. But once I had no positive influence. I made the fearful presence angry and just seemed to add urgency to it's goal. And I don't know what it's goal was, but I instead I should say I increased my own fear b/c the presence seemed angry and immediately moved faster. So I assume it intended to frighten or hurt me. At this point I know I was dreaming, or atleast I knew I could stop it by getting out of bed. So I chickened out and got up and now I will never know what would have happened. To me this dream was like I could be getting a piece of communication or knowledge that I needed and that it might have been too profound for me to handle, so I chose not to see it. And by deciding I didn't want to see it, and allowing my fears to escalate, I suddenly realized it was a dream and I could get up and end it. But maybe I was having trouble facing something terrifying, not neccessarily undesirable, about myself. Because the dreams are such a mix of the thoughts in our heads. How can we tell if we are communicating with an outside source? Or maybe it's because a part of us is contained in an outside source, and we're back to just communicating with different parts of ourselves. Oh gee! How complex can I make this sound!

DATE: Saturday January 1, 2005 -- 2:39:53 pm

FROM: sitting under a blood moon
DATE: Tuesday January 4, 2005 -- 6:21:14 am
t3r3ssa. i too have both these kind of dreams you mention and they are starting to merge. As to the presence in the room and the false awakening i have these exactly the same as you and it is in the second dream i become lucid. If you have not already read it can i recommend (The art of dreaming) by Carlos Castaneda. He writes of his experiences with Don Juan, a mexican indian shamen who has mastered both these kinds of dreaming and more. Good luck.

DATE: Tuesday January 4, 2005 -- 3:42:10 pm
I could never be able to lucid dream because everytime i think it may be a dream i look around and check if everything seems normal, like if i did the paper things i would think that it is normal for words to move but then when i wake up i would be like, whoa, how did i think words moved on paper? I am gonna start to write a dream journal, i have wanted to control dreams for a long time like really well.

FROM: sitting under a blood moon
DATE: Tuesday January 4, 2005 -- 4:24:55 pm
i can give you 2 ways that have helped me to begin lucid dreaming. the first is to wear a ring with a large stone turned inwards and sleep with your fist clenched, it becomes uncomfortable and within the dream you become aware of that and look at your hand, see the ring and realise you are dreaming. The second method is to set your alarm to go off every hour, as the alarm wakes you, you reset for 1 hours time etc. This seems to keep you in the sleep state preferable for lucid dreaming. Sounds mad but i was given this advice and its worked for me.

FROM: mace
DATE: Sunday January 16, 2005 -- 12:27:25 pm
is this for real?

DATE: Sunday January 16, 2005 -- 7:06:28 pm
Yeah, well today when my boyfriend was over i was taking a nap, started to dream. Dreaming i was having sex with him, woke up to find that i was having sex with him... heh, sex it great

FROM: C-bug
DATE: Monday February 7, 2005 -- 5:40:58 am
I've had lucid dreams for years. They scare me. I freak out because I can't wake up. They cycle over and over. I usually fall down and then they start again. I can't tell when I am actually awake again because they are so real. I used to be able to wake up by dialing a phone or trying to write, but now I can do those things in my dreams too. I don't like them and I have them more frequently. Like every night. I am scared to go to sleep.

FROM: C-bug
DATE: Monday February 7, 2005 -- 5:43:52 am
To make things worse.. I also often can't move for a while. I try to scream, but no one hears me. I try to kick and throw things, but I guess I am not really doing anything. I can't move, and sometimes I can't breathe. Does this happen to anyone else?

FROM: t3r3ssa
DATE: Thursday February 24, 2005 -- 8:11:16 pm
Once I was watching a guy carve things in a girl's face with one of those electric turkey carvers. I was standing there watching, thinking I needed to do something, but I was sort of paralyzed by the fact that she was saying help me, but she wasn't screaming or moving.

FROM: t3r3ssa
DATE: Thursday February 24, 2005 -- 8:14:57 pm
I notice those dreams where I wake up inside the dream (I dream I woke up, but I'm really still dreaming), seem to happen when I'm either going through a major change/struggle, or I know I need to make a change that is going to cause a struggle. I had them through out my marriage and for a short period of time afterwards. I don't have them at all now. I think that means I have settled things with myself. heh :)

DATE: Thursday February 24, 2005 -- 8:18:16 pm
no, i can never just leave one message per visit. heh. i just want to say thanks to sitting under a blood moon, for your book suggestion. i will check that out. as dreams and such fascinate me

FROM: dmented-qwertyuiop
DATE: Tuesday June 21, 2005 -- 10:57:18 am
i had a lucid dream once i was running around my neighborhood and hid behind a trash can (one of those big green ones) that I knew wasnt thereand couldnt wake up my dream was similar to liz's dream (ironic thing is thats my name to, well its actually lizzy but whatever) and I thought i woke up and threw up but I actuallywas still asleep this went on until 12:30 in the afternoon (it was summer0

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