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September 4th, 2000

Whatever happened to Berkeley Systems?

You remember Berkeley Systems, don’t you? They made After Dark, the first wildly popular commercial screensaver. AD was created in a time before Windows 95 made screensavers truly integrated, and it was created with flair. Who could forget the Flying Toasters? Lawnmower Man? The Simpsons version of AD?

Apparently, everyone. AD fell by the wayside as Berkeley hit it big with a little Jellyvision program you might’ve heard of called You Don’t Know Jack. Jack turned out to be the future of the company, and as the 123 different versions of Jack can attest to, it’s been profitable. Oddly enough, Jack was similar to AD in that it was a bit of a prelude to what was coming down the pipe: online gaming.

Berkeley’s embraced that, too; the game network Bezerk was one of the first commercially successful net gaming sites. But they outsourced that to last year. So what’s left at Berkeley? Not much. While you can still buy AD, why? It doesn’t work on Win 2000 or Mac OS 9, and as their FAQ points out, upgrading software is cost prohibitive. There are dozens of free screensavers out there. And you can still get Jack, but who doesn’t have it already?

The interesting part of the whole story is that Berkeley was bought out by Sierra – formerly Sierra On-Line – which also used to be a highly profitable company. Now, Sierra is but a shell of its former self because it didn’t keep up with the times. Berkeley, whether under the Sierra umbrella or not, succumbed to the same fate. -pm

Posted in Technology

FROM: Matt
DATE: Monday September 4, 2000 -- 7:13:25PM
Nice topic Paul. I grew up playing Sierra games because they were not only innovative but also very entertaining and challenging. Such classic games as the Police Quest, Space Quest, and Kings Quest lines and the Adventures of Willy Beamish(still my favorite computer game ever.) So its interesting to see that they have bought a very successful company. Like you said wonder what they will do with it?

FROM: sallemjazz
DATE: Sunday February 4, 2001 -- 1:51:09PM
anybody knows how I can get the latest copy of expresso from berkeley systems? (defunct berkeley)

FROM: pancho
DATE: Monday April 2, 2001 -- 3:12:29AM
Or, does anyone know of any PIM as good as Expresso that one can buy? I've been using Expresso up to Mac OS 9.0.4, but it seems it wont work with 9.1!

FROM: Gail
DATE: Wednesday June 6, 2001 -- 9:07:11PM
Hey, I want to install this cool Looney Tunes screensaver by Berkeley systems, but I lost the registration number. Anyone help?

FROM: Michael
DATE: Monday July 9, 2001 -- 11:21:46PM
I have the Simpson's screen saver for Mac which I own. I want to reinstall it but don't have the @#$%^& Registration # either.
Who the hell keeps these things. Not me, I've 300+ CD-ROMs. Can anyone spare me their code so I can reload this software.

DATE: Tuesday August 21, 2001 -- 5:52:46AM
Look in the Answers at

How to find the After Dark registration number for various versions of After Dark.

After Dark 3.0, Simpsons Screen Saver, Star Trek: The Next Generation, X-Men, Looney Tunes:

It is on the lower right-hand corner of the back of the Quick Reference Guide.

The Disney Collection, More After Dark, Star Trek: The Screen Saver:

It is on both halves of the registration card.

Marvel Screen Posters, Star Trek Screen Posters:

It is on the upper-right corner of the QuickStart Card.

If you have lost your After Dark documentation, you can use a generic number:

For Mac versions: LSM-00670-6681
For PC versions: LSW-00670-6681

FROM: pussinboots [E-Mail]
DATE: Wednesday January 9, 2002 -- 12:29:05 am
Their website is not even working. That really stinks, because my favorite game EVER is Get The Picture. Does anyone know if the Get The Picture servers are permanently down? Or, if all else fails, if there is a similar game? I miss it :(

FROM: Chris Schlesinger
DATE: Thursday January 17, 2002 -- 8:19:35 am
Berkeley Systems is no more. It was bought and merged into the gaming site Berk Sys' on-line games like "Get The Picture," and "Acrophobia" were dropped in place of cheap casino games. Very sad. If you're looking for Berk Sys CD-Rom products go to

DATE: Sunday February 24, 2002 -- 3:46:26 pm

DATE: Friday March 1, 2002 -- 10:43:02 am

FROM: L T Haddrill
DATE: Friday March 1, 2002 -- 10:43:47 am
I used to have After Dark Star Trek Screensavers, Original & Next Generation as well as the original AD version, on my old 486 system W/3.11but when I upgraded to the Pentium chip with W/95 followed by W/98 & W/Me, my local computer experts (?) told me that I can't use my older AD programs on the newer systems as it will cause the computer to crash, something to do with 16 bit versus 32 bit.. Since I am an absolute PC amateur I would like to know; 1] is that true; 2] if so is there a way around the problem so I can keep and use my beloved Star Trek Screensavers..
Any assistance would be greatly appreciated..

DATE: Thursday March 14, 2002 -- 12:56:20 pm
Thanks for the article. It was helpful in my research of old sw.

FROM: nyia
DATE: Sunday March 24, 2002 -- 9:33:53 am

I was trying to transfer berkeely systems Launchpad (very old program) to windows xp. Is it possible? Or does anyone know where I can get a disk of it and try to install that? It is one of my favorite programs and I don't want to give it up.


FROM: HyenaHead
DATE: Sunday April 21, 2002 -- 11:36:05 pm
"Get the Picture" was a very fun game. PLEASE BRING IT BACK!!!

DATE: Wednesday April 24, 2002 -- 7:12:19 am
I just installed the Star Trek Screensaver from After Dark under XP pro. It works fine - but not as a screensaver. Only in demo-mode. But it's very cool.

FROM: Marcus Mackey
DATE: Wednesday April 24, 2002 -- 3:02:41 pm
::bowing head in silence::

Yes, it is but a sad, sad day that there will be no more flying toasters floating across computer screens. No more Bad Dog to tear up the desktop, or any of the other onslaught of well crafted screensavers of the Berkeley Systems tongue-in-cheek ilk. I really wish someone would go about purchasing the rights and recreating the modules in a fashion that would be usable in both MacOS X and Windows XP. I do believe people would pay for the modules if they were crafted well, and hell... it could evolve into a sort of e-business as more modules were made and sold per subscription.

Then again, I'm surprised people haven't gone about resurrecting these modules. After all, there was nothing really so graphically explosive about them that you couldn't go about recreating them in Flash and using something like Screentime for the Mac or the PC Flash conversion software to recreate the modules.

If there's ever one thing Flash is good for... ;)

FROM: Molly
DATE: Tuesday April 30, 2002 -- 12:57:50 am
HELP ! I've looked everywhere -I need to play acrophobia- certainly there is a working alternate version.. I miss it so ! How could it have been dropped.. ????? geezus

FROM: Jessica [E-Mail]
DATE: Sunday May 5, 2002 -- 7:26:46 pm
Blame Vivendi. The whole story is available, in bits and pieces, on, under the rubrick of Berkeley Sytems became, retaining the original BerkSys staff, and maybe you remember YDKJ the Netshow... Then Vivendi decided it would be really lucrative to can the game development and instead sell ad space and really boring games customized to major sponsors. Then a small company in L.A. stole the code to those really boring games, sold ad space on those, had sweeter looking books and was hand fed Flipside by the terrifically depressing management. It was obvious what was happening, and it was agony. I have some stuff left over from when we cleaned out the storage space a year ago - probably not acrophobia, but I'll look...

FROM: Paul [E-Mail]
DATE: Sunday May 5, 2002 -- 8:21:39 pm
Wow, Jessica, thanks for stopping by. Were you one of the BerkSys folks?

FROM: naomi
DATE: Tuesday May 7, 2002 -- 3:32:08 am
i'm trying to find, jack the web show. are any versions still running, i used to play it forever, and recently wanted to and found it gone. if anyone can help me, please do!! thanks

FROM: graham
DATE: Friday May 10, 2002 -- 2:48:56 pm
can anybody supply a copy of disc 1
for disney after dark screensaver as mine has become screwed

FROM: richard noggin
DATE: Monday May 13, 2002 -- 1:07:26 pm
Yeah, Get the Picture was the only game I ever liked on the computer. Why don't them weenies spend some moolah and bring it back?

FROM: Joannie Cunningham
DATE: Wednesday May 15, 2002 -- 9:46:07 pm
What does a girl have to do to play Get the Picture? email me if you know, or if there's something similar! Thanks a bunch!

FROM: Chuck
DATE: Saturday May 18, 2002 -- 12:11:16 pm
FYI, I am using an old copy of Expresso with Mac OS 9.1. Idid need to turn off the Expresso Notifier extension to do so, but with that extension turned off, the rest of the program seems to run fine as well as the operating system.

FROM: Emanda C-V
DATE: Tuesday May 21, 2002 -- 11:04:15 pm
Hey all!!! I've been searching for about 2 weeks now and I've tried just about everything! Does anyone know someone who is selling, where I can buy, or download The Adventures of Willy Beamish?? I've tried; Ebay, amazon,, etc. Please feel free to email me and let me know, Thanx!!

FROM: Annelies Rainer
DATE: Tuesday June 4, 2002 -- 11:07:15 pm
great. thanks, Annelies

FROM: fiona
DATE: Wednesday June 5, 2002 -- 6:50:02 am
hey marcus, i for one would be happy to pay for an afterdark simpsons module to run on windows xp - is there a petition i can sign?

FROM: Jaron [E-Mail]
DATE: Thursday June 6, 2002 -- 9:47:13 pm
I was a addict, especially Get the Picture. Anyway i was feeling nostalgic and decided to find Acrophobia, and I found an alternate version. It's pretty good, but not near as good as old Acrophobia. Btw, if you download acrochallenge and play, my name is JarMan. Enjoy!

FROM: Jaron
DATE: Thursday June 6, 2002 -- 9:48:06 pm
Sorry missed the link somehow. Anyway the link to the alternate version is

FROM: Mary Thompson
DATE: Tuesday June 11, 2002 -- 5:26:09 pm
Berkeley Systems made Lauch Pad. Can you tell me how to change the password in this program so that I can bypass the dog scene. Thanks so much.

FROM: Sam Bouvere
DATE: Wednesday June 12, 2002 -- 10:20:34 pm
Where can i find the Bad Dog screensaver?????

FROM: Rajesh Khater
DATE: Wednesday June 19, 2002 -- 2:20:54 am
What is the latest version of Expresso? Is there any other program that can replace it since Berk Sys is no no more? I use version 1.0 but it crashes my machine. I am using MacOS 8.6

FROM: Ryan [E-Mail]
DATE: Monday June 24, 2002 -- 10:48:36 am
Sigh... So sad to see what I had only thought was a bad URL... I just installed AD 3.0 on my old laptop, and it worked fine, but I remembered there being an old patch for it to get it up to Win 95 compatibility... 'Cept i can't get it... Thanks Sierra & Vivendi... and another great franchise falls by the wayside.

DATE: Saturday July 6, 2002 -- 11:09:35 am
Berkeley AD (flying toasters on a background of starry night, bad dog, pro-fish) used to work on my Mac 9.0.4 but causes my Mac 9.1 to freeze on opening. Anyone have a solution?

FROM: lira1000
DATE: Monday July 8, 2002 -- 3:32:32 am
I feel your pain. I used to love to play Get the picture and Cosmic Consensus and now their gone! Does anyone have Vivendi's e-mail? I'd like to give that company a piece of my mind!

FROM: lira1000
DATE: Monday July 8, 2002 -- 3:34:16 am
Also, I was wondering is After Dark a internet game? I've never
heard of it.

FROM: Dave [E-Mail]
DATE: Monday July 8, 2002 -- 1:55:41 pm

FROM: Ramseycat
DATE: Monday July 8, 2002 -- 9:13:23 pm
I used to have a Mac & I had Berkeley Systems Expresso Cakendar & Address Book installed. It was the best calendar program I ever used, but I had to switch over to a PC using Windows 98. Is there any way that I can obtail a copy of this Expresso program for my PC?

FROM: M. Alleyne
DATE: Thursday July 11, 2002 -- 10:44:34 am
I would give ANYTHING to play acrophobia again, I HATE Flipside!!!!! THey've taken my joy!!! :(

FROM: Sweet Sue
DATE: Thursday July 11, 2002 -- 9:57:08 pm
Ditto-I, too miss Acrophobia! Is there
any hope???

FROM: Sharon
DATE: Sunday July 14, 2002 -- 9:22:22 pm
There is help for Acro Addicts...

FROM: danal shappeno
DATE: Saturday July 20, 2002 -- 11:01:21 am
The Mac OS 9 screen saver MacDim ( has various modules, one of which is
said to run old After Dark modules. I have lots of those saved, but cannot get them to run. Is there someone who knows how to do this? I'd just love to show these to my grandcildren!

Danal in Ann Arbor MI

FROM: TheRidge
DATE: Tuesday July 23, 2002 -- 6:46:34 pm
I too was an acro addict!! Im going to check out acrochallenge, sounds like somewhere to start off my addiction once again! Are there any other Venutians out there? I remember the old clan so wistfully :( well, off to check out acrochallenge bye y'all!! :)

FROM: Paul [E-Mail]
DATE: Tuesday July 23, 2002 -- 7:53:53 pm
After Dark for Mac OS X!

FROM: Reuben Black
DATE: Saturday July 27, 2002 -- 1:38:42 am
Anybody know where I can get a copy of Expresso. My floppies have gone south and I lost my application when i had to install a new hard drive.

FROM: Matthew
DATE: Thursday August 1, 2002 -- 5:51:57 am
It is sad. I have like After Dark for a long time. I thought it was still there. I just found a version of Disney After Dark and installed on my Win XP. It seemed to work great. Only problem I notice is that it seems to not listen to the proper mins to wait, and when the screen saver comes on, it is impossible to turn off. It doesn't seem to want to listen to mouse movments. Although, if you turn it on manually, or use the demo it works. great. Will have to play with the settings to see if can tweak it out. I always have liked the flying toaster. I had a friend who had a mac and I loved that saver and always wanted it for PC. I do have it for PC and also have the StarTrek one. Of course, I have the startrek one on another computer I have that still has win 3.1 on it.

FROM: Anthony
DATE: Thursday August 1, 2002 -- 11:52:06 am
I'm with Sam - Where can I find the BadDog screensaver?

FROM: Steve
DATE: Monday August 12, 2002 -- 8:52:01 pm
Oh no!!! Berekley Systems no more!!!
Thanks for the info anyways.

DATE: Monday August 12, 2002 -- 9:38:37 pm
How do you change password in Launch Pad? I don't know the original password. Also I don't have a manual, CD Rom, or disk of any sort to go with the program. I inherited this program when someone gave me their old PC. Right now the computer is stuck in launch pad and I can't close it w/o a password.

FROM: Jonah
DATE: Friday August 16, 2002 -- 5:56:27 am
If there is anyway to get Jack the netshow and play it again please tell me how. I need a site to download it from. I loved to play that game but then I deleted accidentally and now I can't get it back. Is there anyway to bring Jack Back?

FROM: Paul [E-Mail]
DATE: Friday August 16, 2002 -- 8:29:29 am
Folks, for the record, The Daily Ping is a purveyor of toilet training accessories. We don't know anything about obtaining Berkeley Systems software. Thanks.

FROM: Jim Cooper
DATE: Tuesday August 20, 2002 -- 12:55:39 pm
I was investigating programs on an old Aptiva PC and stumbled across the Launch Pad program designed by Berkeley Systems. The problem is that I don't know how to reset the Adult password so I can quit the program. Now everytime I restart the PC the Launch Pad program starts. Can you halp me?

DATE: Friday August 30, 2002 -- 3:09:44 pm

FROM: eyeletonerip
DATE: Monday September 2, 2002 -- 6:24:29 pm
just another cry in the cold darkness of cyberspace to revive Get The out there ?

DATE: Wednesday September 4, 2002 -- 10:29:39 pm

DATE: Wednesday September 4, 2002 -- 10:36:11 pm
Sorry to hear that Berkeley Systems is no more. Since I upgraded to a computer that cannot use my old version of Expresso I haven't been able to find anything comparable. I guess I never will. If anyone knows of a similar callendar program please drop me an email...Thanks

FROM: ming
DATE: Friday September 20, 2002 -- 10:49:25 am
JUst wondering if anyone has found an alternative to great but now gone ACROPHOBIA.

FROM: Teaser
DATE: Saturday September 21, 2002 -- 8:29:54 am
I have a copies of acrophobia, baddog, lawnmower man, Adventures of Willy Beamish, and heaps of other Berkley stuff. an old fan. Anyone interested.

FROM: Nick
DATE: Friday September 27, 2002 -- 12:29:42 am
Several years ago, I saw an old, battered copy of the "10th anniversary" CD on a store shelf. Now with the demise of Berkley, et all, I'm glad I snatched up the last copy! One unfortunate detail: The screensavers only run on my old Preforma CD, but I can't play the games! ARGH! I NEED A PPC!

FROM: Joshua McDaniel
DATE: Tuesday October 8, 2002 -- 12:07:41 pm
If anyone has a copy of After Dark 4.0 and the registration key and you are willing to share it with me, please email me. I have After Dark 3.0 and the reg key, if anyone needs it email me. My email is,, AOL Instant Messenger Screen name is macinjosh9895 and Yahoo Messenger is the same as my yahoo email address

FROM: Paul
DATE: Tuesday October 8, 2002 -- 12:08:42 pm
Say, Ryan, does the Daily Ping look like Google?

FROM: Ryan
DATE: Wednesday October 9, 2002 -- 12:45:01 am
Now you can download the Ping Search Bar for your browser!

FROM: Robert G.
DATE: Friday October 11, 2002 -- 9:25:53 am
I have Totally Twisted After Dark screen saver (w/no password). Anyone know how I can use it on a Pentium-4 running Windows XP?Please E-Mail me if you do. By the way, any one know how I can get Johnny Castaway screensaver and El Fish programs that will work w/my system.

FROM: Phil Bosley [E-Mail]
DATE: Monday October 14, 2002 -- 4:22:24 am
I find this phenomenon fascinating, that an article written over two years ago is still drawing responses from the former players of Acrophobia, ,YDKJ and my fave Get The Picture. It is at once reassuring to know so many of us are still out there, and at the same time discouraging to think that the major companies still refuse to bring back these very popular titles. It seems that the Information Highway touted as the new form of freedom in the early 90's has rapidly become, I think, The Information Corporate-Sponsored Toll UnFreeway. The so-called superhighway is now analagous to having to dodge giant billboards which "pop-up" in the middle of the road. The virtual joys of discovering a "Mom and Pop Games," akin to a family run restaurant, has been replaced by an endless stream of fast food restaurants, porno shops and casinos. I no longer have an Internet connection in my house (using public computers or Internet Cafes), and knowing most of what's out there, I really don't miss it. Here's to memories of ICQ 98b, mIRC, BBS's and playing Duke Nukem with zero speed problems on a 28.8 modem. Cheers.

FROM: SuperJay
DATE: Monday October 21, 2002 -- 9:02:32 am
I miss Get the Picture, please tell me where I can play a similar game or MAKE IT POSSIBLE AGAIN!!!!!!!!!!! (please)

DATE: Friday October 25, 2002 -- 2:27:57 pm
I have found my old installation discs for the Star Trek Screen Saver but no longer have the manual with registration number. Does anyone know who I might contact to get the registration number OR is there some workaround that would let me install without having the specific number?

FROM: Milton
DATE: Saturday October 26, 2002 -- 12:54:00 am
Hey Robert G. I have the same problem: Totally Twisted After Dark Screensaver that I can't get to run on my XP machine. Has anyone been able to solve this problem?

FROM: Marcia
DATE: Saturday October 26, 2002 -- 12:50:32 pm
Where can I found afterdark looney tunes for PC???
Can someone help me?

FROM: Tim Rios
DATE: Sunday October 27, 2002 -- 1:44:08 am
I don't see why Berkeley had to go and do something like that. Anyways, I just wanted everyone to know that I still have all the old serial numbers for the after dark modules,so if you need one, e-mail me. Unfortunately, my very old after dark floppy disks with the actual things became 'damaged'. If you have any of the older screen savers, please help me out in restoring my collection. I already have the simpsons, star trek, and disney modules, and am willing to trade, or offer for free. I wish Sierra would at least acknowledge that After Dark once existed. I went to their site, and there was not one trace of Berkeley. Oh well. Sob.

FROM: lindsay
DATE: Friday November 1, 2002 -- 2:26:51 pm
I miss acrophobia!! I used to play it all the time and i decided just recently to look for it again because i remembered how much i liked it, and i find out the horrible news that it doesn't exist anymore! BRING BACK ACROPHOBIA!!!

FROM: matt
DATE: Wednesday November 6, 2002 -- 8:46:04 pm
My friend reminded me today about acrophobia which reminded me of the 34 or so YDKJ games I have. I found this site reakizing was no longer in existence. I miss acrophobia...

FROM: Marcia
DATE: Thursday November 7, 2002 -- 5:03:05 pm
I got the looney tunes afterdark. Now I'm looking for snoopy modules. Can anyone help me, where can I find it?

FROM: Tim Rios
DATE: Sunday November 10, 2002 -- 6:49:16 pm
Snoopy Modules. Wow, I never even knew that there were modules of Snoopy. I have never seen one though. If in my search for modules though, I do come across one, I will be happy to let you have it.

DATE: Wednesday November 13, 2002 -- 11:43:59 am
Hi - Does anyone have the (a) registration number for the Berkeley Systems After Dark - The Disney Collection Screen Saver? I have the original disks in excellent condition, but have lost the box and registration numbers (which is so unlike me). If anyone can help, it would be so greatly appreciated.
Thank you so much!

FROM: Paul
DATE: Wednesday November 13, 2002 -- 12:50:31 pm

I did a Google search for the word "shell" and this Daily Ping Website came up. I want to know, can anyone tell me about seashells? I have a paper due tomorrow so PLEASE get it to me SOON.

tnx :) :) :)

FROM: monkwy
DATE: Monday November 18, 2002 -- 1:58:15 am
i dont know if any one noticed the new cards...the company was taking players captions and making novlty cards out of them. i saw several of them in card stores, funny captions that i know some dumb paid writer could never come up with..and even still that i know this i would give any thing to play get the picture again...i dont even care if some lame company makes money off it. i dont guess any one ever found something like get the picture...i miss staying up all night making up silly stuff and going to class with black puff screen stare eyes..

FROM: Sharon
DATE: Monday November 18, 2002 -- 11:17:17 am
I have installed AFter Dark 10th anniversary on my windows2000 PC because I read that Microsoft has a compatibiltiy patch that allows this program to run. Some of the modules do run, but some look like the process is too fast and runs the Starry Night module with an error message flying by too fast to read...Anyone with any ideas?

FROM: nate
DATE: Tuesday November 19, 2002 -- 2:38:21 pm
can anyone tell or show me where i can find the files on the installation disc of Willy Beamish, because I have the 6 other discs but the install one is in limbo...please!?! I never beat this game and i just rediscovered it!

FROM: Tim Rios
DATE: Tuesday November 19, 2002 -- 5:12:32 pm
I have the same problem when using the newer versions of The After Dark Program. The starry night module text always flies by too fast. When I used some of the older versions of After Dark such as the one included in the Disney Collection pack, the program works fine though. Of course, the program will not be embedded in your regular system control panel such as it is in version 4. Still though, that is the only way I found to make the modules run fine. Other than the starry night module, you should have no problems though. If you installed some old modules after you installed the actually program though, then you will need to reinstall the program so it registers the modules correctly. Always install the program only after you have installed all of your modules. If you do get some error that your can't read though, it is probably saying that you need to set your monitor to 256 colors. That is all the help I can offer. Hope it does help.
~Tim Rios

FROM: Laura
DATE: Wednesday November 20, 2002 -- 1:43:10 pm

Im still using Windows ME and After Dark and it works fine ! I'm also enjoying No Longer Dark. This is a program with 45 free modules to use with After Dark. I find it great and maybe there are also other persons interested in this program.

You can download it from

Nice made, and completly free....



FROM: polina
DATE: Monday November 25, 2002 -- 2:21:45 am
if anyone has the adventures of willy beamish, or knows where i can download it, PLEASE EMAIL ME!!! i used to play that game when i was little everyday after school, but my computer got messed up and had to reformat. i never even got to finish it. i remembered that the game existed when i was drunk the other night, and i kinda miss it a whole lot. please help, i've searched everywhere.

FROM: thc
DATE: Tuesday November 26, 2002 -- 2:56:02 pm
acrophobia used to rule!

FROM: Boomer
DATE: Friday November 29, 2002 -- 5:11:26 pm
To all "Get The Picture" fanatics. First of all, if anyone has seen or heard of another game like Get The Picture, please let me know. Otherwise I will propose the following: I am an application developer, who like many of you loved playing "Get The Picture". Since I have been unsuccessful in finding it, I am seriously thinking of developing a game similar to Get The Picture. Unfortunately, I do not have the vast server resources that would be neccessary to keep such a game up and running; and like everything else in this world, that type of thing seems to cost money. My question for this board is "How much would a yearly subscription to play this game be worth to you?" I would love to hear from anyone interested. Email me at

FROM: Jeff
DATE: Friday December 6, 2002 -- 3:23:11 pm
I just upgraded from mac os 8.1 to 9.1, and am trying to get Expresso 1.0a to work. One of your past submissions said that it will work simply by turning the Expresso Notifier extension off. I just tried that and still cannot open the software. Any other recommendations? Also, for the future, any idea if it can work with os x too? Thanks for your help.

FROM: Mandy
DATE: Tuesday December 17, 2002 -- 3:54:14 am
Bring back Cosmic Consensus!! :P Is there a similar somewhere on the web? If so, some one please let me know? Thanks a bunch!

FROM: Misha [E-Mail]
DATE: Wednesday December 25, 2002 -- 6:16:51 pm
I've got After Dark 4.0, run Mac OS 8.6. It should work but doesn't. Demos run fine but when I try to run the screensaver either nothing happens or the computer freeze. Any ideas? Help. Thanks, Misha

FROM: Rhiann
DATE: Monday January 6, 2003 -- 9:57:01 am
Hey, I want to download a version of The Adventures of Willy Beamish, but cannot find it. Where abouts could i find this?

FROM: Paul2
DATE: Sunday January 19, 2003 -- 3:10:18 pm
I was one of the original Alpha and Beta testers for Acrophobia, and most of the other Berekeley stuff like YDKJ and Get the Picture actually still have the cool Acrophobia hat they sent us, would never let it go. It was a great game sorry to hear they trashed it :(

FROM: David Shappirio
DATE: Saturday January 25, 2003 -- 11:49:44 am
The screensaver "MacDim" from runs fine on Mac OS 9.x. One of its modules is supposed to run AfterDark modules. I saved my old AD copy including the modules, but can't get them to run. Anyone have a way to do this?


FROM: Steve S
DATE: Sunday January 26, 2003 -- 8:33:53 pm
Please anyone on any info of the game Get The Picture! i loved that game soso much and was addicted until i found out it didn't exist! PLEASE ANY INFO ON THIS GAME WHAT SO EVER WOULD BE APPRECIATED!!

FROM: Gina
DATE: Wednesday January 29, 2003 -- 12:40:10 pm
I'm considering making a launcher for AD and Win2k and looking for any information that can help me with that.

I considered two possible approaches:
a) writing a screensaver able to launch AD modules or
b) writing wrapper(s) for existing interfaces.

So anybody with information on the following:
- interfaces of modules and/or existing SDK/specifications, preferrably with URLs
- sourcecode for or documentation on AD
- experience in module writing and interface designs
please post here.

If nobody is going to accept any money from AD fans to run the screensavers, it's time to make some Free Software :-)


DATE: Thursday January 30, 2003 -- 8:34:13 am

FROM: Carolyn
DATE: Thursday January 30, 2003 -- 8:36:25 am
For those of you looking for Star Trek: The Screensaver from Berkeley Systems put out in 1994 you can download it here -

FROM: Carolyn
DATE: Thursday January 30, 2003 -- 8:39:41 am
Also some folks posted about Willy Beamish, The Home of the Underdogs has that one too.

FROM: susan
DATE: Tuesday February 4, 2003 -- 4:45:42 pm
Help! got my old mac os 7.0 back from my kids. they used the password protection mode, but forgot the password to get in. now can't get pass the afterdark screensaver. Have tried to reboot, but it goes straight to screensaver. anyone know how to bypass or disable?

FROM: Kristen
DATE: Wednesday February 5, 2003 -- 12:36:55 am

FROM: Freddy
DATE: Wednesday February 5, 2003 -- 1:13:32 am
I'm looking for a module called "Rude
Dog". Could someone e-mail me a copy of this module?

FROM: Carolyn
DATE: Wednesday February 5, 2003 -- 1:03:09 pm
If someone is looking for the old site archive for patches or free downloads go here-

FROM: Freddy
DATE: Thursday February 6, 2003 -- 1:00:19 am
Also,could someone tell me how to get "Mowing Man" to work in Windows? And I still need module called "Rude Dog" or "Bad Dog"! Thanks

FROM: Freddy
DATE: Thursday February 6, 2003 -- 1:05:53 am
My e-mail is

FROM: Andrew_PC
DATE: Saturday February 8, 2003 -- 11:31:51 pm
Ugh, I was just looking for acrophobia, and eventually found my way to this site after crazy searches.

It amazes me no one has brought it back despite its popularity.


FROM: dave
DATE: Tuesday February 11, 2003 -- 10:48:51 am
does anyone know where i can download the adventure game "the dig" and "the day of the tentacle"?Thanx

FROM: Marcia
DATE: Wednesday February 12, 2003 -- 3:00:42 pm
I have tha disney after dark, but my last diskette damage and I can not install this. Can anyone help me?

FROM: Peter
DATE: Friday February 21, 2003 -- 3:44:55 am
If anyone has the Bad Dog SCR ....please contact me

FROM: Noire
DATE: Sunday February 23, 2003 -- 12:17:44 pm
I have a full cd of adterdark screensavers. I am willing to trade ziped files for.
Contact me by clicking on my name.

FROM: Noire Again :)
DATE: Sunday February 23, 2003 -- 12:35:08 pm
This is the cd I own!
Looks like it's the Mother lode of all the after dark cd's.

After Dark Deluxe (84 displays + Randomizer)
Art Critic / Bad Dog! / CYb3r W@t / Fish World / Flying Toasters! / Guernsey Madness / Hula Twins / Life & All / Magic Turtle / Marbles! / Messages 4.0 / Out 'n About / Points of View / Psycho Deli / Rainforest / Rock Paper Scissors / Rodger Dodger / Shadow Agents / Slow Burn / Swirling Magic / Super Guy / Time Flies / Artist / Bad Dog / Bogglins / Boris / Bugs / Can of Worms / Clocks / Confetti Factory / Dardevil Dan / DOS Shell / Down the Drain / Draw Morph / Einstein / Fish Pro / Flying Toasters Pro / Flying Toilets / Fractal Forest / Frost and Fire / Geo Bounce / Globe / Gravity / Lunatic Fringe / Mandelbrot / Marbles / Meadow / Messages / Modern Art / Mountains / Mowin' Man / Nirvana / Nocturnes / Nonsense / Om Appliances / Pearls / Photon / Punch Out / Puzzle / Rain / Rat Race / Ray / Rebound / Rose / Satori / Shapes / Slide Show / Spheres / Spin Brush / Spiral Gyra / Spotlight / Stained Glass / Starry Night / Strange Attractors / String Theory / Sunburst / Tunnel / Warp! / You Bet Your Head / Zooommm! / Zot!

FROM: Michael
DATE: Wednesday February 26, 2003 -- 5:19:15 pm
For you Acrophobia fans there is a brand new game in beta testing that is so close to the original it's scary.

check it out at

FROM: graeme rhodes
DATE: Tuesday March 11, 2003 -- 9:41:28 pm
anyone know why after dark 3.0 wont work with mac sys 8.6 it seems the screenposters ext is causing problems on startup

FROM: Kristie
DATE: Saturday March 15, 2003 -- 1:45:36 am is a site where u can download a acro type game havent been able to find a get the picture type game i would make one but ive now clue how to make a game. =) hope this helps for any of u acro addicts who want to do some acroing

FROM: Donna Jean
DATE: Tuesday March 18, 2003 -- 7:54:43 am
I'm working on a Performa with Expresso 1.0. Is there any way to export this address book into an internet service such as Yahoo? Yahoo wants Outlook, Palm Desktop, Netscape Address Book, or Yahoo formats.

Family pressure made me replace this Mac with a PC. I always missed the Mac. Now the PC is broken and I am back to the Mac. I just love using it, even though it is slow and all the software is dated. My next computer will definitely be a Mac!

Thanks for any responses.


FROM: Mark
DATE: Thursday March 20, 2003 -- 2:07:16 am
I'm using a G4 with Mac OS 9.2 & AD version 3 is incompatible (worked in OS 8.5.1 on my 7220). Does anyone know if AD version 4 works in OS 9.2.2. If yes, could I obtain a copy from someone? I'd be more than happy to swap AD modules/Darkside/other stuff! Greatest screensaver ever! Only Marine Aquarium gets my other interest as a SS. OS X AD is not as powerful & a bit disappointing.

FROM: tom
DATE: Sunday March 23, 2003 -- 6:28:40 pm
can u send me a copy of the screen saver? please

FROM: Marcia
DATE: Thursday April 3, 2003 -- 3:49:14 pm
My 3 disket of the disney afterdark damage and I can not install this, where I can I found that one, or someone can help me? I love that one and I am so sad that I no longer have this any more.

FROM: brigitte
DATE: Friday April 4, 2003 -- 4:34:44 am
hey im probly no the expert on berkely but i love YDKJ it is the funniest game ever and it totally rocks!!!! bring

FROM: paul
DATE: Tuesday April 8, 2003 -- 2:58:30 am
I just dug out my old copy of Triazzle by Berkeley on CD. I think it came out in 1995. A few years ago, I dug it up and managed to find someone on the web who was one of the creators of the game. I had lost my CD Key and he provided me with a new one. I just installed it on my new computer running WIN XP. I am shocked to find it plays and plays well on WIN XP! I am so excited. Hours of fun are in store. What a great game!

FROM: magpie
DATE: Monday April 28, 2003 -- 9:46:43 pm
please, please, please email me if you've found a game like get the picture- i miss it so much... there's just no other game that provides giggle fits of stoner delight...

DATE: Monday May 5, 2003 -- 7:39:08 am
Dave, The Dig & Day of the Tentacle are made by Lucas Arts . I don't know if they are still in production, but Lucas still supports them...

FROM: Jo Anne
DATE: Tuesday May 6, 2003 -- 3:53:53 pm
Anybody know how to make Triazzle compatible with OS 9 (Macs)?

FROM: terry
DATE: Thursday May 8, 2003 -- 9:47:14 am
Can anybody help me to get Expresso to work with anything higher than OS 9.0? I'm not upgrading to anything higher if I can't take along Expresso. My attempts to use 9.1 and 9.2 crashed my iMac.

FROM: Paul
DATE: Thursday May 8, 2003 -- 9:57:06 am
Let's see. No mention of "support" anywhere. No mention of "technical support" anywhere. No 800 numbers. No 900 numbers. No 976 numbers.

Obviously, this is a tech support forum.

FROM: tommy
DATE: Saturday May 10, 2003 -- 5:32:06 pm
can anyeone help me? i have an old ibm aptiva and launchpad starts each time the computer boots up, but i cannot get access to my desktop as i do not have the adult password for launchpad. i don't have my manual anymore, and i need to reset the password. can anyone help?

FROM: Scott
DATE: Monday May 12, 2003 -- 9:16:51 am
Does anyone have the After Dark Marvel Screensaver for Mac or the 10th Anniversary After Dark Edition for Mac? If so, I have just about all the others and would be willing to trade. Please drop me a line. As for running After Dark on Mac OS 9.0-9.2, you can't. But you can download Darkside of the Mac screensaver and run the AD modules on that application in classic even on OSX (10.1.5--I haven't tried it on Jaguar).

FROM: Paul
DATE: Monday May 12, 2003 -- 9:46:46 am
I'm pleased to note that Acrophobia is back online. [Via little. yellow. different.]

FROM: Michael
DATE: Thursday May 15, 2003 -- 5:43:02 pm
I have most of the After Dark software and will be willing to share them for a fee....

FROM: Marilyn
DATE: Friday May 16, 2003 -- 1:02:01 am
I was a big fan of Boris the cat. Wish I still had that screensaver!

FROM: help!
DATE: Friday May 30, 2003 -- 7:57:28 pm
what were the artists on the modern art module?! pollock, modrian, and... it's killin me!

FROM: Barb
DATE: Monday June 2, 2003 -- 11:22:06 am
I have the original CD with documentation of "After Dark 10th Anniversary Edition" it has games, screensavers, etc. Please e-mail me if you want any or part of it.

FROM: Diana
DATE: Monday June 9, 2003 -- 2:48:36 am
holy shit. i thought bezerk games were gone for good, but i found acrophobia today on, and a downloadable version of cosmic concensus :

i'm so happy i could cry, these are seriously my two favorite online games.... EVER.

FROM: Ashley
DATE: Monday June 9, 2003 -- 8:34:12 pm
This is a great topic.. I was looking for an old game that I used to play called 'acrophobia'.. I loved that damn game. I cant believe isn't here anymore.. BRING IT BACK...NOW!!!

FROM: Jorge
DATE: Wednesday June 11, 2003 -- 11:45:14 am
hello! does anybody has the star trek next generation screen saver to share or trade? I'm dying to get this one ... I have some modules to share like star trek, disney, simpsons, looney, ad 3.0

FROM: Dominic
DATE: Wednesday June 11, 2003 -- 6:40:47 pm
Does anyone have a copy of AD4.0 and willing to trade? I need it to run AD-Disney on my XP system. I Will trade for a copy of the Disney files.

FROM: Jorge
DATE: Thursday June 12, 2003 -- 4:32:01 pm
I have Ad 4.0 but it is a large program 35 megs. any ideas?

DATE: Wednesday June 18, 2003 -- 7:43:11 pm
I need simpsons after dark! Does anyone know where to get it?

FROM: Kasia
DATE: Saturday June 21, 2003 -- 2:01:46 am
Okay so they brought back Acrophobia and Cosmic Consensus on Uproar... but where's my Get the Picture?!?! I got sooo addicted and I love that game!!!! Pleeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeease bring it back I'd even pay to play it if I had to!

FROM: Jorge
DATE: Tuesday June 24, 2003 -- 2:33:26 pm
simpsons afterdark? that's easy

now please anybody can tell me where to get star trek next generation afterdark screen saver????????? or I'm going to commit suicide :(((

DATE: Saturday June 28, 2003 -- 12:14:50 am
I have After Dark 4.0 and want to install it on my G4 OS 9.1. When I restart, the computer gives me an "address error" from After Dark. Can anyone help me get it to work.? Anyone know of a patch for OS 9.1? I love After Dark and can't get it to work! HELP!!!! Please :)

DATE: Thursday July 3, 2003 -- 4:31:54 pm
I have Star Trek 1.0, I can not get the sound to work under Windows 95 any suggestions or solutions, thanks

FROM: whodunnit
DATE: Monday July 7, 2003 -- 1:00:34 pm

I've got After Dark 4.0 and Totally Twisted for Windows. These were given away on a UK magazine a few years back. Since they aren't supported and nobody is showing any interest in the After Dark series, I can't see any reason why they shouldn't be freely distributed. If anybody wants them, mail me and i'll upload them to a server.

If you've got Windows 2000/XP go here:

and download the Windows Application Compatibility Toolkit. This SHOULD make AD work on 2K/XP, though I haven't tried it yet.

I'm after more AD modules, if you got 'em let me know. Maybe see about getting a little web site up to make AD available to the general public? :)

FROM: mortis83
DATE: Wednesday July 9, 2003 -- 12:46:33 am
does anyone know where to i can download Lunatic Fringe for the PC?

FROM: Rossy
DATE: Thursday July 10, 2003 -- 1:29:57 am
Hi Guys..
Anyone interested in purchasing After Dark Deluxe, I have found a few places that still have this in stock and have been able to complete my orders. These are;
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DATE: Saturday July 12, 2003 -- 3:19:25 pm
I have after dark tenth aniversary. And the the screensaver is called bad dog.

FROM: ms.myky
DATE: Wednesday July 16, 2003 -- 2:19:01 pm
I may have some AD/Berkeley Systems software in my storage unit. I was the content editor for GTP/YDKJ online. I might have the default s/n information (code keys) - I will look if anyone is interested.
Berkeley Systems was merged with, purchased by the French, & renamed flipside after merging with (which owned virtual vegas). They then consumed and, moved to Los Angeles and discontinued almost all "original game content", especially if it required scheduled content additions, like Get The Picture.

DATE: Monday July 21, 2003 -- 6:01:09 pm
I can't find cosmic consensus anywhere. I NEED to play it. Yes, uproar has acrophobia, aut cosmic consensus is nowhere to be found on that site as you have said. Others have said to get the downloadable version, but it installs and then won't connect to the server (prob. cause it no longer exists). If anyone can tell me where a server that still runs this game is, I would be very grateful.

FROM: Santi Madrid
DATE: Monday July 21, 2003 -- 8:36:37 pm
I remember those flying toasters... Someone SHOULD make windows *.scr remakes of those wonderful sreensavers.
Paul, you're wrong, dude. Three years of pings reminding bad Dogs and Flying toasters demonstrate it.

FROM: Rossy
DATE: Wednesday July 23, 2003 -- 2:04:28 am
Hi Guys,
Got my copy of AfterDark Deluxe last week! It rocks! I really missed AD. If your desperate to get this try;
This is were I got my CD. And it appears focus multimedia have licensed this from Berkley, which is why its not appearing as abandonware.. Anyways just a ping to say it is still available.. Enjoy! I am! :)

FROM: Amanda
DATE: Wednesday July 23, 2003 -- 8:49:06 pm
I know that acrophobia is back up and running but what about "get the picture?" I miss that game so much. If there is an alternative game similar to it please let me know. I miss that game!

FROM: Greg
DATE: Friday July 25, 2003 -- 5:14:14 pm
Does anyone have a copy of Expresso for sale? I hae lost my install disk and only have backups, atleast I have those of my calendar and contacts. HELP!

FROM: Somebody
DATE: Monday July 28, 2003 -- 11:12:19 am
I know that acrophobia is back up and running

It doesn't work

FROM: Jeff [E-Mail]
DATE: Wednesday August 6, 2003 -- 1:26:22 pm
Does AfterDark Deluxe have the Disney/Simpsons modules in it? The website doesn't say. I wrote some of those and it'd be great to have working copies, they're very hard to find.

FROM: Eddo
DATE: Sunday August 17, 2003 -- 7:52:34 pm
Hey I ran into this and read all the peoples comments. Does anyone know anything about GET THE PICTURE. I'm fiending to play again and cannot find a way to. Thanks

FROM: Jeff
DATE: Monday August 18, 2003 -- 4:22:23 pm
Can anyone help with a technical glitch I am experiencing w/Expresso?.....Everytime I launch lately, I get a message that Expresso is in use/being used by someone else. I am using a mac OP and have always had my system closed to network use....Does this ring any bells with anyone????

FROM: question!!
DATE: Tuesday August 19, 2003 -- 3:08:07 pm
does anyone happen to have the written instalation instructions to willy beamish, if so, can you email a exact text copy? i lost mine in there is a certain way i havea always hade to install, or i get a corrupt disk plaese insert and try again message...any help is appreciated!!

FROM: Claudia
DATE: Saturday August 30, 2003 -- 4:05:45 pm
I have Launch Pad installed onto my computer and I have lost the adult password, therefore it doesn't allow me access to my desktop. I don't have the manual to Launch Pad anymore to reset the password. If you can would be greatly appreciated.

FROM: Cherry
DATE: Thursday September 11, 2003 -- 3:26:38 pm
Does anyone have the registration code for Triazzle? I have 10 copies for my computer lab, but all the original documentation is gone!

FROM: Mermaid [E-Mail]
DATE: Wednesday September 24, 2003 -- 10:10:58 pm
I recently got on a kick hoping to play El-Fish
again on my new laptop and I can't install it.
I have seen from doing searches on the Internet
that there is some kind of patch. But I can't
find one that will make El-Fish work on Windows
ME with a Pentium III processor.

Can you help me? Please? Do you know how I can
make it work? I miss my fish...

Any help you can offer will be deeply
appreciated. :-)

FROM: Christina
DATE: Friday October 3, 2003 -- 2:16:45 am
I have been trying to download the bad dog screensaver and can not get it to work. I remember it from high school and I am trying to relight some of my youthful memories. Can anyone tell me where I can find a copy that works with windows XP home. Please e-mail me! Thanks for any help you can provide!

FROM: Dina
DATE: Friday October 3, 2003 -- 4:37:42 pm
Is there a way to export my Expresso Address Book into Mac OSX Address Book. OSX address book can only import Vcards and LDIF files. Expresso does not offer either on of those as export options. Any help appreciated, I dread having to retype all my addresses. Thanks!!

FROM: AngelFyre
DATE: Friday October 10, 2003 -- 11:36:37 pm
i found the ad 10th anniversary edition ....runs fine on XP...only problem like others listed here...stary night wid text flying by on BAD dog and many other modules...text says... unable to load module..and the path ...i print screened it..wat todo...i tried the compatibility thing...didnt change anything!

DATE: Wednesday October 15, 2003 -- 9:42:39 am
This question is for "Sam" of 7/12/03; where can I find the 'Bad Dog' screensaver? Your help is appreciated! Thanks!

FROM: Haley
DATE: Wednesday October 15, 2003 -- 9:56:35 pm
This is amazing.

Damn whoever sold Get the Picture.

FROM: Jennifer
DATE: Thursday October 16, 2003 -- 1:30:51 am
Dose ANYONE know or have a version of Willy Beamish I can download or have? I've tried several places and they all are either corrupted or have fatal errors!

FROM: Kylie
DATE: Saturday October 18, 2003 -- 10:53:19 pm
Whatever happened to They had all the BEST online games. I was an addict along with all my friends. Will Bezerk ever come back?!?!?!

FROM: Melissa
DATE: Saturday October 18, 2003 -- 11:20:50 pm
Why cant they just bring back!! im sure any of you people who have taken the time to post your thoughts about Bezerk's games online, would spend any amount of money to play them again. PLEASE bring them back!!! all of you i miss get the picture and cosmic consensus!!

FROM: Mary
DATE: Saturday October 18, 2003 -- 11:35:38 pm
I am broken hearted..I have kept After Dark as a screensaver "exclusively" for years and now I either have to stick with a system with Windows 98 or give my After Dark...Pretty sad... I absolutely "despise" my windows xp... Thanks for the opportunity to vent!!!

FROM: Jenny
DATE: Sunday October 19, 2003 -- 3:57:27 pm
Some of you have said that has acrophobia, and it does, BUT how come everytime i click to play the game, it gives me a blank screen...Do any of you have the same problem?! I want to play acrophobia~!~!~!~

FROM: Heather
DATE: Sunday October 26, 2003 -- 2:46:26 am
I do have the same problem jeeny with the new acrophobia, i wrote to uproar a few days ago about the blank scrren, they haven't written me back! That doesn't suprise me, I miss Acro too!!!!

FROM: jeff
DATE: Wednesday November 12, 2003 -- 2:37:39 am
I too need to play Get the Picture, if anyone finds an alternative please post it here, I will do the same... :(

DATE: Wednesday November 12, 2003 -- 3:33:10 am
Does anybody have after dark online? I can not find it on internet.

FROM: Marcus
DATE: Saturday November 15, 2003 -- 3:25:02 pm
Where can i get the disney version of afterdark for PC?

FROM: Iron
DATE: Wednesday November 19, 2003 -- 8:16:33 am
I wonna work on bringing it(After Dark) back to life!!!

FROM: Curtis
DATE: Friday November 21, 2003 -- 11:20:09 pm
what happened to cosmic consensus it was the best game on the net please bring it back cuz thats the only game i liked playin on the net

FROM: Jeff
DATE: Saturday November 22, 2003 -- 8:19:21 pm
Greetings. I am trying to complete my collection of After Dark screen savers. I currently have two of the standard After Dark collections, and the following special editions: Looney Tunes, Disney, Star Trek: The Original Series, Star Trek: The Next Generation, Star Trek: Screen Posters, Totally Twisted, and the Star Trek: The Next Generation StarDate Expresso program (very cool!!). I am hoping to add to this collection. If you have any other After Dark special editions (PC only), and you would care to do some trading, please send me an e-mail. Thanks, folks!

FROM: micah cohen
DATE: Monday November 24, 2003 -- 9:44:49 pm
I saw the looney tunes screensavers from Berk. Sys. on my algebra teacher's computer, and it was the the coolest thing! Where can i find it?!!??!!!! Where?! Where?! Wheeereeeee, huh???!!!?!!

FROM: Jeff
DATE: Monday November 24, 2003 -- 9:52:34 pm
To Micah Cohen: Send me an e-mail, and I will send you the Looney Tunes Screen Saver.

FROM: jorge
DATE: Tuesday November 25, 2003 -- 12:16:25 pm
hace aos que deceo tener un salvapantalla animado de disney que sea after dark y no se de donde bajarlo gratis ,por favor si alguien me puede dar esta informacion se los agradesco. muchas gracias en spanish pleace

FROM: Labotomi
DATE: Wednesday December 3, 2003 -- 10:12:39 pm
I've got the disks for Expresso and Stardate. I'll send them to anyone who requests them.

FROM: Jeff
DATE: Thursday December 4, 2003 -- 1:01:36 am
Labotomi, I have StarDate, but would love to have the original Expresso. Besides StarDate, I have the following After Dark screen saver programs. If you want any in return, just let me know: Star Trek Screen Posters, Star Trek TOS, Star Trek TNG, The Simpsons, Marvel Screen Posters, Looney Tunes, Disney, After Dark 3.2, and Totally Twisted. Hope to hear from you soon. Happy trading!

FROM: Rossy
DATE: Thursday December 4, 2003 -- 11:30:08 pm
Hi Guys,
In answer to some comments -
Christina & Skurtz - Bad dog is a module of AfterDark which can be found in some online stores and p2p programs such as WinMX, Kazaa etc..
AngelFyre - Try reducing screen resolution down to 800x600 16 bit.
Iron - I agree and will do all I can to help - email me (subject AfterDark) and we will talk.
Jeff - Will be in contact soon..
Thanks everybody,

FROM: Jeff
DATE: Friday December 5, 2003 -- 3:24:43 am
Greetings again, folks. I came across this site with info on After Dark, and thought I would share it with everyone. It apparently hasn't been updated for quite some time, but it's still informative. Enjoy!

FROM: Jeff
DATE: Wednesday December 10, 2003 -- 10:58:13 pm
Hello? Hello? Are we still on the air?

FROM: Marcia
DATE: Sunday December 14, 2003 -- 11:20:03 am
Where I can found after dark 10th edition??

FROM: Jeff
DATE: Monday December 15, 2003 -- 5:49:11 pm
Marcia, After Dark 10th Anniversary Edition is available for free on KaZaA, but be warned: it is in a single executable file, and is 33.5 Meg in size. If you have a slow, dial-up connection, it will take you quite a while to download it. But hey, it's free. LOL Hope this helps you out.

DATE: Monday December 15, 2003 -- 11:06:29 pm
Hey Can Any one get me the Bad Dog Screen Saver.........For win 98....
please send me a link or some download site.......

FROM: Mike
DATE: Tuesday December 16, 2003 -- 6:57:52 pm
Anyone know how to get around the AD password feature? Someone set it up and forgot the password now I can't do anything on that computer. Thanks.

FROM: Jeff
DATE: Tuesday December 16, 2003 -- 10:23:30 pm
Jay - Bad Dog is not a full screen saver. It is a module for the After Dark engine. You have to have one of the full screen saver versions to run Bad Dog.

Mike - If you are referring to the serial code, there are several generic ones that will work with any After Dark module. If it is a personal password, you probably won't be able to get around it. You will probably have to completely delete After Dark and reload it again.

FROM: Jeff
DATE: Wednesday December 17, 2003 -- 1:43:50 am
Jay - I sent you the Bad Dog module in a zip file. Follow the instructions in the e-mail, and it should work for you. So you will know, there is a game based on this module in the After Dark Games program. Enjoy!

FROM: Labotomi
DATE: Wednesday December 17, 2003 -- 10:38:33 pm
Jeff, did you get the files I sent to you?

FROM: Jeff
DATE: Wednesday December 17, 2003 -- 11:24:57 pm
Labotomi, I have not received anything from you. If I had, I would have sent you a thank you response. If you are looking to trade something, my e-mail is

My After Dark collection is slowly growing, and I'm happy to share. I currently have:

After Dark 3.2
After Dark 4.0
After Dark 10th Anniversary Edition
Disney Collection
Flintstones Collection (Movie)
Looney Tunes Edition
Marvel Screen Posters
Simpsons Edition
Snoopy's Screen Savers
Star Trek Screen Posters
Star Trek: The Original Series
Star Trek: The Next Generation
Totally Twisted Edition
Star Trek: TNG StarDate (Expresso)
After Dark Games

I have also found After Dark 4.1 Deluxe, and Triazzle (Full Version). I expect to have them in hand within the week. If anyone wants to do some trading, let me know. Happy trading, and Happy Holidays!

FROM: Jeff
DATE: Thursday December 18, 2003 -- 1:33:36 am
I also have the following games for trade, made by Berkeley Systems after they discontinued the After Dark series:

You Don't Know Jack
You Don't Know Jack Vol. 2
You Don't Know Jack Vol. 3
You Don't Know Jack Vol. 4: The Ride
You Don't Know Jack 5th Dimentia
Head Rush

Just so you would know. LOL

FROM: Jeff
DATE: Tuesday December 23, 2003 -- 2:52:55 pm
I have just added the following to the collection:

After Dark 4.1 Deluxe
After Dark Midnight Collection

If anyone is interested in doing some trading, let me know. Happy trading and happy holidays to everyone!

FROM: Jeff
DATE: Wednesday December 24, 2003 -- 4:34:52 am
Labotomi, thank you very much for sending me the Expresso files again. I got them fine this time. I hope you enjoy the Star Trek: The Next Generation screen saver I sent your way. If you didn't get it, or if you have any trouble with it, let me know. Happy trading!

DATE: Sunday December 28, 2003 -- 12:05:31 pm
Can StarDate be loaded on xpPro

FROM: Jeff
DATE: Thursday January 1, 2004 -- 10:24:59 pm
Happy New Year, everyone! Just wanted to let everyone know that I have obtained ScreenStudio for After Dark. This is the full version of the program that teaches you how to make screen saver modules for After Dark. If anyone is interested, let me know, and maybe we can do some trading. Happy trading!

FROM: mario
DATE: Friday January 2, 2004 -- 10:50:31 am
Guys im a pretty good vb programmer and need a new project to work on, if anyones already started creating a wrapper for AD screensavers or has any info on where to go about it let me know. Love to help out so I can get my beloved Simpson's Screensaver running again...

FROM: Susan watts
DATE: Sunday January 4, 2004 -- 1:58:47 am
I have been looking for a copy of the After Dark Module either 3.0 or 4.0. for a long time I was going to get it from Berkeley Systems and now I find out they are no longer in business. Does anyone out there have a copy of the module they might share?? I had it on my computer but when I changed systems I lost it.
I would sure appreciate any help you can give me. I like After Dark. I am running XP Pro now and hope it will work on this system.
Thanks again.

FROM: Jeff
DATE: Sunday January 4, 2004 -- 8:53:39 am
Susan, I sent you the After Dark 3.2 Collection, and the Totally Twisted Edition. If you have any problems with them, let me know. I hope you enjoy them! Happy New Year!

FROM: Erica
DATE: Sunday January 4, 2004 -- 10:06:07 pm
Someone please help me!!! I have been searching and searching for the "BAD DOG" screensaver. (WIN 98 VER.?) If anyone can help me in anyway, It would be very appreciated!! SOMEONE?? ANYONE?? HELP MEE!!

FROM: Jeff
DATE: Monday January 5, 2004 -- 12:26:15 am
Erica, I sent you the After Dark 3.2 Collection. "Bad Dog" is one of the many modules included in this program. Apparently, it will not run on Windows XP, but I know for a fact that it will run under Windows 98, as I have it running on a computer right now with that operating system. I hope you enjoy it!

FROM: Christian [E-Mail]
DATE: Sunday January 11, 2004 -- 5:11:58 pm
simply put, i miss get the picture.

FROM: courtney
DATE: Wednesday January 14, 2004 -- 11:58:37 am
Im dying here. I have a copy of Star Trek: the screen saver, and every time i try to install it, i get an error. i thought it was b/c i didnt copy the files properly, so i d/l another copy. got the same error. will AD not run on WindowsXP?

the university i go to has banned P2P sharing on Kazaa and the likes, so i cant download ANYTHING! it sucks. if anyone can help me out with any AD, and AD star trek programs i'll you a big 'high-five' or something.

If anyone can send me anything, i have a T1 connection... so it should be lightning fast.

FROM: Jeff
DATE: Wednesday January 14, 2004 -- 10:26:54 pm
Courtney, from what I can determine, the After Dark programs will not work on WindowsXP or higher operating systems. It has something to do with the graphics drivers. Most of the modules will work in Windows 98, although a few run way too fast due to the speed of the processors, and some will need for you to reduce the graphics settings. If not, you get the Starry Night default module. You have to remember, all the After Dark screen savers were made in the early to mid 90's, when 486 computers were the fastest out there. Sorry to disappoint you, but that's what I have discovered in my experimenting. Good luck to you.

FROM: Darcie
DATE: Thursday January 15, 2004 -- 10:21:36 am
I just upgraded from Mac OS 7.5 to 8.0 and my After Dark 3.0 will no longer work. Is there a version that works? I love the "slide show" screensaver and have files of pictures that I use with it.

DATE: Friday January 16, 2004 -- 3:14:22 pm
Would love to find out the answer to getting past the Launch Pad screen if you don't know the password. Several people have inquired, anyone have the answer? Thank you very much in advance to anyone who can help!

FROM: steve
DATE: Friday January 16, 2004 -- 10:56:11 pm
i love after dark 2.0 stained glass. it will work on windows 98 but way too fast. i have an athlon 1.3 gh processor. how can i slow down the creation of the patterns so i can see them like they were on windows 3.1?

FROM: Jeff
DATE: Saturday January 17, 2004 -- 7:53:33 pm
Joy, I have never used LaunchPad, but this might help you. In the very early versions of the After Dark programs, if you went into your main Windows folder and deleted the file AD.CFG, this would disable the password process. I don't know if that will work with Launch Pad. On another note, I would like to have a copy of Launch Pad, if you could send it to me. If you read some of the earlier posts, you will see that I have a lot of After Dark that I could trade you. Let me know.

FROM: courtney
DATE: Monday January 19, 2004 -- 9:06:14 pm
do any of the AD programs work on XP?

if so, can anyone send me one that does?

FROM: andres
DATE: Tuesday January 20, 2004 -- 3:51:36 am
here you can get lots of ADs for mac:
I just tried my personal favorite (the simpsons) on my XP and it works great! try downloading it from
Email me if you want, im trying to find all the windows versions I can and try them... im a programmer and could make it work in XP.

FROM: coutrney
DATE: Saturday January 24, 2004 -- 4:20:52 pm
hey andres,
i cant find the AD program itself that will work on XP. im guessing my star trek prog wont work unless the AD, itself, works.

FROM: Oz (a.k.a. Dv8)
DATE: Tuesday January 27, 2004 -- 8:15:03 pm
I am (and been for quite a while now) a big AD fan. It was refreshing for me to read from so many other AD lovers out there. I just recently reinstalled my old 4.0 version in my XP running machine, and it runs like a breeze. What I did was run the Compatibility Wiz BEFORE installing AD. It prompts you to choose the program from one of several locations. I picked "from the CD" (or something of the sort), after wich I selected the "win98" compatibility option, and checked the "disable visual themes" option. That does the trick! The only modules that don't seem to work properly are "Fish World" and "Rainforest" (if you try to select the animals to be shown in the saver, they lock down AD).
I'm tryin' to get some more modules that were originally designed to run under version 4.0 . Anyone willing to share some of those? My e-mail is . Thanks in advance!

FROM: Oz (a.k.a. Dv8)
DATE: Tuesday January 27, 2004 -- 8:31:58 pm
I forgot to mention: the modules I currently can display under XP are the ones for AD 4.0 (Art Critic, CYb3r W@t, Guernsey Madness, Flying Toasters, Hula Twins, Life & All, Bad Dog!, Marbles!, Messages 4.0, Out n' About, Points of View, Psycho Deli, Rock Paper Scissors, Rodger Dodger, Shadow Agents, Slow Burn, Super Guy, Swirling Magic and Time Flies). I couldn't make other modules, like Flying Toilets!, work at all.
I really miss the old After Dark days, and I grieve not being able to use all of the older modules. Not all is lost, though, as long as I can still enjoy some of the magic!

FROM: Jeff
DATE: Saturday January 31, 2004 -- 5:12:46 am
Greetings, folks. If anyone has a copy of the Launch Pad children's program by Berkely Systems, I would be very interested in doing some trading. Hope to hear from someone soon. Happy trading!

FROM: LoneWolf
DATE: Tuesday February 10, 2004 -- 12:34:55 am
i'm trying to find Afterdark the looney tunes version, but no luck, i used to have it original, i tried kazaa, hotline etc, any idea where to find it ?

FROM: Jeff
DATE: Tuesday February 10, 2004 -- 4:19:26 am
LoneWolf, I'm sending the Looney Tunes version to you in e-mail. It is from the original disks, so you shouldn't have any problems with it. I have included the Serial Number as well. Enjoy!

FROM: Rossy
DATE: Monday February 16, 2004 -- 6:06:02 am
Hi Jeff,
I have sent you a couple of emails lately. I have been trying to contact you regarding a swap. Please send me a mail when you get a chance..

FROM: Jeff
DATE: Monday February 16, 2004 -- 3:57:41 pm
Rossy, I have not received any e-mails from you, or I would have responded. As I never get a response or a thank you for the programs I have sent out, I don't come back to this site very often, and I don't send out programs any more. I'm sorry we missed each other. I sent you an e-mail in response to your Ping message. I hope you got it. I stand by to hear from you. I have a fairly good collection of Berkeley After Dark programs, so maybe we can do some trading.

FROM: Kole
DATE: Tuesday February 17, 2004 -- 8:57:16 pm
I've been a fan of the A.D. Totally Twisted screen saver since it's release. Anyone have any idea on how to get this program to work under the Windows XP O.S.?
Thanks in advance for any replies.

FROM: steve
DATE: Wednesday February 18, 2004 -- 8:43:23 pm
i love after dark 2.0 stained glass. it will work on windows 98 but way too fast. i have an athlon 1.3 gh processor. how can i slow down the creation of the patterns so i can see them like they were on windows 3.1?

FROM: ragingsun
DATE: Saturday February 21, 2004 -- 3:56:39 pm
Are there any games that are out on the www now that are like Cosmic Concensus?

FROM: Jimmy
DATE: Sunday February 22, 2004 -- 11:33:47 pm
Can anybody help me with the flying toaster screen saver? I understand that the downloads are for OS X, but I have OS 9.0.4 and was wondering if there was anything available for that.

FROM: Mojo Risin\' [E-Mail]
DATE: Wednesday March 3, 2004 -- 12:23:20 am
Acro is a great game, but I really miss Cosmic Consensus - How to request it back: or - HELP - CONTACT - CLICK HERE - MEMBER SERVICES - GENERAL FEEDBACK

FROM: Victor
DATE: Thursday March 4, 2004 -- 2:39:33 am
anyone know where to get AfterDark's Snoopy or X-Men (non-poster) collections for windows?

thanks so much.

DATE: Saturday March 6, 2004 -- 2:05:09 pm
hey all. i used to have after dark with the star trek original series screensaver on my old 486. had to reformat the hd tho many years ago and lost it.. if anyone could send it to me or send me a link i'd really appreciate it. thanks a bunch

FROM: Uriah
DATE: Sunday March 7, 2004 -- 7:20:39 pm
Bring back Get The Picture!

FROM: Jeff
DATE: Tuesday March 9, 2004 -- 1:23:41 am
Tom, if you don't find the Star Trek screen saver, send me an e-mail and I'll send it to you. I have the following Star Trek After Dark programs:
Star Trek: The Original Series
Star Trek: The Next Generation
Star Trek Screen Posters
StarDate (STTNG Expresso Program)

I have a large collection of After Dark programs. I'd be happy to do some trading with you.

FROM: Bryan
DATE: Saturday March 13, 2004 -- 3:46:01 pm
hy jeff can i get a copy of ad 4.1 deluxe frome you ???

FROM: funnypie
DATE: Monday March 15, 2004 -- 9:51:49 am
Does anyone have a good program similar to Expresso, which notifies you of your appointments?

FROM: Dazzaaaa
DATE: Wednesday March 24, 2004 -- 4:42:50 pm
Afterdark with Baddog! can anyone send me a version of afterdark with baddog that will run on XP, i have read some that say it will,some say it won't. can someone send it so i can try it and convince my wife either way!! lol

DATE: Wednesday March 24, 2004 -- 7:23:22 pm

FROM: HawkeyeBlack
DATE: Saturday March 27, 2004 -- 5:59:41 am
Hey I found the original Authors website explaining EVERYTHING about AfterDark, Bill Stewart and co now make a product called PowerDrawers and their company dynamickarma still sells a very old Skool game called Inner Space which I was addicted to a few years back! It's nice to see the old skool are still around in this corporate mess! Dark

FROM: Draxx Montego
DATE: Tuesday March 30, 2004 -- 12:40:47 am
It brings a tear to my eye to see a great prog like after dark die given so many fans out there..
Can anyone out there please send me Looney Tunes and Midnight Collection? These used to be my faves many years ago...
Thanks heaps in Advance! :)


FROM: Erica
DATE: Saturday April 3, 2004 -- 8:50:36 pm
I am looking for an AD that I can get to work on XP. I am also looking for some of the classic modules like flying toasters, as well as the star trek ones and simpsons.

I would really appreciate it if someone would email them to me. Thanks in advance!


FROM: steve
DATE: Monday April 5, 2004 -- 7:37:45 pm
i love after dark 2.0 stained glass. it will work on windows 98 but way too fast. i have an athlon 1.3 gh processor. how can i slow down the creation of the patterns so i can see them like they were on windows 3.1?

FROM: RedSpy
DATE: Saturday April 10, 2004 -- 3:11:11 am
Greetings. My copy of the Simpsons Screen Saver for After Dark has become corrupted. I am looking to replace it. I have the following in my After Dark collection for trade. If anyone would care to trade, let me know.

After Dark 10th Anniversary Edition
After Dark 3.2
After Dark 4.0
After Dark 4.1 Deluxe
After Dark Midnight Collection
Complete After Dark Collection
Disney Collection
Flintstones Collection
Looney Tunes Edition
Marvel Screen Posters
Snoopy's Screen Savers
Star Trek Screen Posters
Star Trek: The Original Series
Star Trek: The Next Generation
Totally Twisted Edition

I also have the following programs by Berkeley Systems:

ScreenStudio for After Dark
StarDate (ST:TNG Edition of Expresso)
Triazzle Rainforest Edition
You Don't Know Jack 1-5
You Don't Know Jack TV Edition
You Don't Know Jack Sports Edition

I hope to hear from someone soon. Happy Trading, folks!

FROM: cosmic headd
DATE: Saturday April 10, 2004 -- 1:48:00 pm
Bring back Cosmic Consensus!

FROM: Unknown
DATE: Saturday April 10, 2004 -- 7:57:26 pm
berkeley also made the launch pad thing right? well i accidentally clicked on it and now i can't get out. i forgot the password and i didnt pay attention to the "emergency situations when you forget your password" so how the heck am i gonna get out...

FROM: Unknown
DATE: Saturday April 10, 2004 -- 8:34:08 pm
is it possible to contact someone from Berkeley to help me with this problemo?

FROM: RedSpy
DATE: Sunday April 11, 2004 -- 7:50:30 am
To "Unknown": I don't know if this will help you or not, but you can get serial coldes for Launch Pad at the following URL:

I hope this helps you out.

FROM: Unknown
DATE: Monday April 12, 2004 -- 10:53:44 am
wait could this work? i download launch pad on a different computer, do that emergency prcedure thingy on that comp and then use that emergency disk on the other comp thats stuck on launch pad... if this works then i'm home free!! LOL :)

FROM: Unknown
DATE: Monday April 12, 2004 -- 10:54:42 am
wait could this work? i download launch pad on a different computer, do that emergency prcedure thingy on that comp and then use that emergency disk on the other comp thats stuck on launch pad... if this works then i'm home free!! LOL :) does anyone know where i can dl launchpad?

FROM: patrick
DATE: Wednesday April 14, 2004 -- 10:29:09 pm
does anyone know for sure which is the highest Mac OS that AFTER DARK DELUXE runs best with?


FROM: Cosmic Head
DATE: Thursday April 15, 2004 -- 8:22:50 pm
For anyone interested in bringing back Cosmic Consensus visit this message board post:
There are many, many people wanting it back - visit this page to keep posted on the latest info and to voice your desire to bring it back!

FROM: Cosmic Head
DATE: Thursday April 15, 2004 -- 8:25:31 pm
going to try that link again where you can click on it Cosmic Consensus thread (btw, it starts out titled "AIB! Acrophobia Is Back" but posts change to cosmic)

FROM: Mojo Risin\' [E-Mail]
DATE: Tuesday April 20, 2004 -- 10:26:27 pm
Cosmic Consensus Tribute Site ... check it out

FROM: misty
DATE: Tuesday April 27, 2004 -- 8:04:48 pm
i would absolutely love to get the windows version of AfterDark, and i am grateful and appreciative for anyone who might be able to assist me. please email me if possible. thank you!!!

FROM: RedSpy
DATE: Wednesday April 28, 2004 -- 3:37:20 am
Misty, I sent you the full version of After Dark 3.2, which works fine on Windows 95 & 98. Enjoy!

FROM: John Mack
DATE: Saturday May 1, 2004 -- 6:26:23 pm
Does anyone know HOW to get Berkley's Star Trek:The Next Generation to work with Windows XP? Thank you!

FROM: Louis
DATE: Thursday May 6, 2004 -- 8:41:48 pm
Does anyone have information on the After Dark module file format? I'm thinking of making a Windows SCR wrapper for those modules.

FROM: $CyBeRwIz$
DATE: Tuesday May 11, 2004 -- 4:31:50 am
Hey guys. I have the Simpsons Screensaver, but the CD is really scratched and I cannot read from it. The links to the screensaver do not work any more, and a google search for it does not bring up anything. If anyone could point me to a link or send me the file that would be great.

P.S this site can help with anyone that has troubles on Windows XP.

Thanks :)

FROM: $CyBeRwIz$
DATE: Tuesday May 11, 2004 -- 5:34:40 am
I now have got my CD to work and anyone who needs the complete CD of the Simpsons Screensaver just send me an email and i'll be happy to give it to you.

FROM: RedSpy
DATE: Tuesday May 11, 2004 -- 11:22:30 pm
CyberWiz, I sent you an e-mail, but decided to post here just in case you don't get it. I would be very grateful for a copy of your Simpsons CD, as my zipped copy no longer works, due to a corrupted setup file. I have the following in my After Dark collection, and would be happy to send you anything you like in exchange for your Simpsons. Just let me know, and thanks for your generous offer.

After Dark 10th Anniversary Edition
After Dark 3.2
After Dark 4.0
After Dark 4.1 Deluxe
After Dark Games
After Dark Midnight Collection
Complete After Dark Collection
Disney Collection
Flintstones Collection
Looney Tunes Edition
Marvel Screen Posters
ScreenStudio for After Dark
Snoopy's Screen Savers
Star Trek Screen Posters
Star Trek: The Original Series
Star Trek: The Next Generation
StarDate (ST:TNG edition of Expresso)
Totally Twisted Edition

I hope to hear from you sometime soon. Happy Trading!

FROM: Scooter
DATE: Wednesday May 12, 2004 -- 2:18:03 pm
Can anyone tell me where to get copies of the afterdark series. I owned a lot for mac and win 3.1 but cant get any for windows anymore. My totally twisted wont work either

FROM: Scooter
DATE: Wednesday May 12, 2004 -- 2:20:24 pm
forgot to leave an email address. Just tried some of my other ones (marvel, loony toons, star trek) cant get any to work

FROM: steve
DATE: Wednesday May 12, 2004 -- 5:03:13 pm
i love after dark 2.0 stained glass. it will work on windows 98 but way too fast. i have an athlon 1.3 gh processor. how can i slow down the creation of the patterns so i can see them like they were on windows 3.1?

FROM: steve
DATE: Wednesday May 12, 2004 -- 5:16:21 pm try this site louis

FROM: David
DATE: Wednesday May 19, 2004 -- 1:19:50 pm
SOrry, you must get a lot of this, but does anyone know where one can get a copy of the best game around, Lunatic Fringe?

FROM: David
DATE: Wednesday May 19, 2004 -- 1:20:05 pm
Sorry, you must get a lot of this, but does anyone know where one can get a copy of the best game around, Lunatic Fringe?

FROM: Greg
DATE: Saturday May 22, 2004 -- 7:44:12 pm
I need to update my After Dark Collection, anyone who would be interested in giving me links etc please let me know


FROM: RedSpy
DATE: Sunday May 23, 2004 -- 1:42:09 am
Greg, there are no longer any active links for After Dark programs online. The only one that was current was a Spanish link for the Simpsons Edition, but the link is no longer valid as of a few weeks ago. You can obtain the 10th Anniversary Edition and the Disney Edition for free on KaZaA, but I have never seen any others offered there. Be prepared, though -- the 10th Anniversary Edition is 34 meg in a zipped file, so with a dial-up modem it will take quite a while to download. Hope this helps you out.

DATE: Saturday May 29, 2004 -- 5:22:04 pm
I have been trying to find a way to use AfterDark 4.0 under Win XP for the past two years with little success. However, I found this site while doing a search and read the message from Oz (a.k.a. Dv8). His suggestion WORKED and I have been using the program with no problems!

Thanks.....Oz (a.k.a. Dv8)

DATE: Sunday June 6, 2004 -- 9:14:34 am
I have been trying to get my Stardate program to work on XP. Has anyone been sucessful? I may have a faulty setup file. I have the AD Star Trek TOS saver and had sucess with it running fine. I just can't get Stardate to run the instalation file.


FROM: Jorge
DATE: Saturday June 12, 2004 -- 1:12:11 am
hello! does anybody has the x men afterdark module? I have several other modules if anybody wants to trade. thanks!

FROM: RedSpy
DATE: Saturday June 12, 2004 -- 5:50:24 pm
Jorge, are you referring to the Marvel Screen Posters, or is there another one with X-Men included? If the Marvel Screen Posters is the one you need, let me know what modules you have for trade.

FROM: Jorge
DATE: Sunday June 13, 2004 -- 1:50:53 am
hello RedSpy. thanks for your reply. and yes I have the marvel screen posters, but there is one official afterdark animated X men scrensaver. I read your list and I believe you already have all modules I have. except for one unofficial called screamsavers (as far as I know snoopy and flinstones are unofficial too) I would be interested in looking that flinstones module too he he. it seems the x men module is the hardest to get :(

FROM: RedSpy
DATE: Sunday June 13, 2004 -- 9:17:58 am
Jorge, I have heard mention of "Screamsavers" also, but have never seen it. I also have a program I have never mentioned here before called "Before Light", which was a program that came out commercially in 1994 in competition with After Dark. I believe the Berkeley people must have raised a legal stink, because it disappeared quickly, but it was a collection of screen savers made in the same vein as After Dark. Fortunately, I was able to get the original CD of it before it disappeared. LOL I have seen mention of an X-Men After Dark program online, in sites where they list the serial codes, but I have never seen any other mention of that program. The Snoopy Screen Savers was made by Berkeley & After Dark, and was one of the earliest of their screen saver programs. The Flintstones version is from the live-action movie, and was not made by Berkeley, but is made to work in the After Dark program, which is why I include it in my list. I have heard that there are other "unofficial" After Dark programs (not just fan-made modules, but full programs), but I have not really researched this area yet. Maybe in the near future.

FROM: Jorge
DATE: Sunday June 13, 2004 -- 5:51:48 pm
Redspy. oh I see. well since flinstones is based in the live movie I lost interest in it LOL. the cartoon is way better. well the x men module is pne I really want badly he he ... maybe anybody else can help us with this one. and if you want the screamsavers I can send it bye mail. just let me know if your email adress can handle 3 files of 1.30 mb each and the module itself is not big deal just a bunch of horrible faces doing gross things. :)

FROM: RedSpy
DATE: Monday June 14, 2004 -- 12:11:42 am
Jorge, sounds like the "Screamsavers" is the module from the Totally Twisted program where you create horrible faces, or something similar. My face is pretty horrible, too, so it shouldn't be too much of a shock for me. LOL My e-mail can handle it, if you care to send it. If there is anything I can send you in return, let me know. I'll be happy to trade with you. As far as a Flintstones module featuring the cartoons, I've never seen it. I always see serial codes listed for the Flintstones version, but logic tells me that it's the one from the movies, as that's the only one I've ever found reference to. Of course, it just gives us something more to search for. LOL I'm starting to think that the X-Men program is another one made by an independent company, but made to work in the After Dark engine the same way the Flintstones program was designed. We'll see. I'm sure someone will come across it one day. Of course, I'm no expert on After Dark by a long shot, but I have spent a good number of years researching and building my collection. I've been trying to find every program I could, and identify any that may be available. Too bad the Berkeley Systems After Dark website is no longer running with any information on it.

FROM: RedSpy
DATE: Monday June 14, 2004 -- 12:53:14 am
To anyone who is interested, here is what I have been able to determine so far. Apparently, Berkeley Systems did, indeed, create an X-Men Edition of After Dark. However, all the information I have come across so far indicates that it was only made in a MAC version. I will continue my research, and let you know what else I come up with. One thought comes to mind. Perhaps someone who is familiar with MAC programming can take the MAC version and convert it to PC version. If not, perhaps the images and graphics can be incorporated into a PC version utilizing ScreenStudio for After Dark, which is the program that allows you to create your own After Dark modules. Further research is definitely warranted.

FROM: Jorge
DATE: Monday June 14, 2004 -- 8:03:43 pm
thanks redspy! well I ran into a little problem. I can't send more than 1 meg. from hotmail. if you use msn or icq send me an email to arrange that. as far as the x men module I'm pretty sure there is a PC version because I have a PC magazine that list every afterdark module including the x men module. maybe you could send me the stardate progrma since a I am a stra trek fan LOL thanks again!

FROM: RedSpy
DATE: Tuesday June 15, 2004 -- 1:01:27 am
Jorge, I have seen lists that say that an X-Men Edition was made, as well. But as I said, I can only find references to a MAC version. We'll just have to keep searching, I suppose. As far as the e-mail, break your file down into small groups and send it to me, and I'll be happy to send you the StarDate program in return. Just let me know if I have to break it into small groups, as well. I only use AOL e-mail, so that will have to do. Hope to hear from you.

FROM: Jorge
DATE: Tuesday June 15, 2004 -- 6:08:39 pm
ok Redspy! I sent it. hope it arrives good. with all parts hehehe if you have any questions let me know. and please send me the stardate program to this e mail instead (check in my name in this post) and try to send it in 1 meg pieces. thanks!

FROM: RedSpy
DATE: Wednesday June 16, 2004 -- 1:32:15 am
Jorge, I got your e-mails containing the ScreamSavers program files. As I suspected, it is not a Berkely Systems product, but another program made to work in the After Dark engine. I have tried numerous times to install it, but I keep getting a message saying that a required file (resource.dll) is missing, and it will not install. If you can check your files, please send me this file, and I will try again. Once I can get it to work, I'll be happy to send you the StarDate program. I have it broken down into three files; Disc 01, Disk 02, and the Serial Number. Hope to hear from you.

FROM: Jorge
DATE: Wednesday June 16, 2004 -- 11:25:38 am
hello redspy! well I just checked my install disks and that file isn't there. (and neither I have it on my HD ... LOL) did you install from temp directories? I mean you create a temp dir and inside you create disk1 disk2 and disk3 dirs with the first email being the content of disk1 and so on (the mails that say part2 goes inside of her respective dirs) some modules are very picky about this. also try to copy the first disk into floppy (I had to do that with twisted I believe) if not maybe is some problem with XP (I use win 98) sorry if I can't be of more help. see ya!

FROM: RedSpy
DATE: Tuesday June 22, 2004 -- 1:12:46 am
Jorge, yes, I tried creating three folders within a temp folder. Then I tried by emptying all the files into one folder. Then I copied them to three floppy discs. It always gives me the same message. Missing a resource.dll file, and if I continue past that and continue to try to install, it then says it cannot create a dialog box, and will not let me go any farther. I am using Windows 98, as well. I don't know what else to try. Thanks anyway.

FROM: Jorge
DATE: Tuesday June 22, 2004 -- 8:02:04 pm
hello redspy1 long time he ... well if you could send me a txt file with the contents of the files that I sent to you so i could check up with mine? other option would be using emule or edonkey. from there I got it.
no problem. anyone else visiting here that yhas the x men mdule please?????? :'(

FROM: RedSpy
DATE: Wednesday June 23, 2004 -- 12:44:15 pm
Jorge, I sent you an e-mail containing a list of all the files in the three discs for the program, as you requested. Nothing I have tried will make it work. I keep getting the same two error messages I told you about. If you can figure out what file is missing, or send me a copy that actually works, I'll be happy to send you the StarDate program you want. Thanks again for trying.

FROM: RedSpy
DATE: Wednesday June 23, 2004 -- 11:35:47 pm
Jorge, the missing file you sent me seems to have made the ScreamSavers program work just fine. Thank you for double checking. Your StarDate program is on the way. Enjoy!

DATE: Thursday July 1, 2004 -- 11:21:58 pm
hey RedSpy, try this: left click on the install file, and go to the "compatibility" tab (in XP). Select "run this program in compatibility mode for:" then select win 95, and maybe diable visual themes too for good measure. my question: did ANYONE have any luck getting old after dark modules to run under winXP? I have After Dark Deluxe (v4.1), but only the 4.0 modules will run... I want my flying toasters like I remember them in computer class from 7th grade!!! Can anyone help with this problem??

FROM: RedSpy
DATE: Friday July 2, 2004 -- 5:57:13 am
Greetings. For those of you who send me e-mails asking about making After Dark work in Windows XP, I am including a link to a webpage that offers the Microsoft Application Compatibility Toolkit, that will help with this problem. As you all my know, the After Dark programs were made in the early 90's, when the fastest computers out there were 386-486 speed. Modern computers have processors that run way too fast for some of the modules. Because of this, some of the modules will run extremely fast, or not at all, and will show the default Starry Night screen. Also, a lot of the modules will only run in 256-color mode, and if you don't change the graphics settings, you will also get the Starry Night module. I hope this answers some questions. Here is the link to the website:

FROM: James K.
DATE: Tuesday July 6, 2004 -- 4:12:33 am
will the after dark work with windows 2000 pro? if it does will someone send it & bad dog screensaver to much abliged !!!!

FROM: James K.
DATE: Tuesday July 6, 2004 -- 4:21:13 am
P.S. i use ShareAza my alias is BastardBoy so if you could send it to me that way it's easier. thank you so much

FROM: Robert
DATE: Sunday July 11, 2004 -- 3:10:15 pm
I've come across my two old floppies of After Dark, but have no registration codes to unlock them for my 12 year old. He wanted to install them on his computer. Any ideas?

FROM: James K.
DATE: Monday July 12, 2004 -- 11:59:01 pm
No one has contacted me yet about my questions. please help if anyone still reads this forum

FROM: i bet nobody reads this crap anymore delete it!
DATE: Wednesday July 21, 2004 -- 11:46:46 pm
nobody gives a shit what u old fogeys did have in the stone age. delete this waste of time and internet space and go back to yelling at your vcr "stop blinking 12:00 !!!"

FROM: sarah [E-Mail]
DATE: Friday July 30, 2004 -- 11:10:53 pm
i truely miss get the picture, and other games at bezerk. acrophobia has come back, although hard to find, but get the picture remains lost. there is still an audience out there who love those games, and want them back now. there are tons of message boards and forums with people who post and say how much they miss those games. get the picture was my favorite game, and i played it all the time. i really miss it.

FROM: sarah
DATE: Friday July 30, 2004 -- 11:14:18 pm
to whoever posted before me, you wouldn't have gotten here if you weren't interested in something remotely related to this article. by saying "stone age" when this article was written in 2000, only 4 years ago, i can only assume you're only 12 years old. i'm glad i found this article, because it gave me some insight about what happened to my favorite online gaming server. i hope this article stays up for awhile longer, so other people who miss those games can understand what happened.

FROM: James K.
DATE: Thursday August 5, 2004 -- 2:49:19 am
this is kinda making me mad because although i agree with sarah above, no-one has offered to help or even reply a comment on my asking for info. i love the screensavers but if nobody cares then i am forced to forget the past and merge with the modern. this forum is 4 years old so nobody probably reads it anymore just like somebody said. so thanx 4 nothing.

FROM: Maria
DATE: Thursday August 5, 2004 -- 11:47:17 am
I have After Dark in XP.

DATE: Thursday August 5, 2004 -- 1:00:28 pm
I am looking everywhere for a copy of ad screensavers that'll run on my XP machine. I managed to find a copy of the star trek version, and it runs great. However, I would like some of the classic modules "flying toasters," etc. that I could use with it. Any ideas? I know some have suggested Kazaa- but this too has proved less than productive.

FROM: Anonymous
DATE: Friday August 6, 2004 -- 9:03:38 pm
Here is the SOLUTION to the Launch pad password bypass problem.

First restart your PC and hit F8 when it says something like "starting up Windows 9x"

Next choose the option to start the PC in "ms-dos" mode

then you'll get a prompt; something like c:\>

enter "edit", without the quotes of course

you should get a blue screen click on "File">"Open">under "directories" choose "windows"> under "files" find "LAUNCHPD.INI">hit ok

Just read the line
AdultPassword = YOUR SANITY
(whatevers on the right side of the equation is your password)

Close everything and restart
once your back in launch pad type in the password you just found....and your done

FROM: RedSpy
DATE: Saturday August 7, 2004 -- 3:58:23 pm
I'm still looking for someone who has the full Launch Pad program or the X-Men screen saver for trade. I have just about every other After Dark/Berkeley Systems program in my collection, and I'm willing to trade you what you want for them. Drop me an e-mail and let me know. Happy trading!

FROM: Anthony
DATE: Wednesday August 18, 2004 -- 7:16:31 pm
Ok. I have a Pc and a Mac. I want After Dark for System 7.5.3 and I dont know where and how to download it to the Mac. Can someone tell me where I can get After Dark for system 7.5.3? Thanks!!

FROM: Fu [E-Mail]
DATE: Friday August 20, 2004 -- 12:16:32 am
Fuck U all in the bleeding asshole u ignorant geezers

FROM: MojoRisin
DATE: Thursday August 26, 2004 -- 6:54:54 pm

Register your player name!

FROM: MojoRisin
DATE: Thursday August 26, 2004 -- 6:55:52 pm
Oh, BTW, it's like Bezerk's Cosmic Consensus

FROM: sarah
DATE: Friday August 27, 2004 -- 6:21:32 pm
but what about get the picture? someone needs to remake that.

FROM: Fu DATE: Monday August 30, 2004 -- 11:55:32 pm
one day i found my dog taking a shit in my shoe. i was really hungry and it smelled so good that i waited for him to finish and i picked up my shoe and poured the puppy's diarrhea down my hungry throat. it was still warm and tasted like my daddy's asshole with a gravy of musty asshole sweat. as i munched on the turd i felt something tickle my tongue and pulled a roach leg from in between my teeth. my dog must've been eating a cockroach he found in my cardboard box house. i saw that there was still some wormy poop around my doggie's ass so i went and licked the rest of the shit from his little brown hole. yummy.

DATE: Tuesday August 31, 2004 -- 9:45:12 pm
The password for Launch Pad is "icare".

FROM: RedSpy
DATE: Wednesday September 1, 2004 -- 1:28:27 am
Tom, would you happen to have Launch Pad for trade? If so, let me know what you would like in return.

FROM: mike [E-Mail]
DATE: Tuesday September 7, 2004 -- 12:46:41 pm
still waiting on that .scr of flying toasters, julio.

FROM: Toki
DATE: Thursday September 9, 2004 -- 2:16:33 am

FROM: anonomous
DATE: Saturday September 11, 2004 -- 11:47:44 am

FROM: Doug [E-Mail]
DATE: Saturday November 6, 2004 -- 8:16:04 pm

AD 4.0 deluxe will work in XP. Find the ADSETUP.EXE file in \AD_DELUXE\ADE directory. Right click on it, a menu pops up. Click properties, then click compatibility. Check 'run program in windows 95 mode' and it will install. I've got a 1ghz p3 w/ 2gb ram and XP Pro. AD 4.0 works w/o a hitch.

DATE: Wednesday November 24, 2004 -- 8:53:49 am
Does anyone out there have a registration number for Star Trek The Screen Saver? I have found my old copy of this (2 disks) but no documentation. Please share with me! For some reason I have a need to reinstall it...thanks.

FROM: Nitz
DATE: Wednesday December 15, 2004 -- 2:12:29 am
I have the After Dark Screen Saver as well!
d once again, thanks!!!

FROM: Nitz once again
DATE: Wednesday December 15, 2004 -- 2:28:43 am
I got a question:
Why the 'Deluxe classics' Aren't working?
The 'starry night' sceensaver appears and there's a message like 'cannot load module' and the name of the screensvar (like 'Bet your head')?

FROM: Nancy
DATE: Sunday December 19, 2004 -- 2:54:07 pm
Hi all, what was that game that bezerk had that had the space men on it? You answered questions and went up a pyramid and the first to the top and answered the most questions right won? Does any other site host this now?

FROM: Life
DATE: Tuesday December 28, 2004 -- 11:36:25 pm
For those interested in After Dark. I am looking for a copy of the latest version. If you have a old PC with AD on it purchase PC relocator at and link/transfer it in. It still does work in XP but all hope is lost if you must reinstall XP

FROM: Zsuzsika
DATE: Sunday January 2, 2005 -- 4:35:56 pm
At least ten years ago, I had a disney version of afterdark on my pc... with goofy painting my desktop, or donald duck pushing away the pictograms on my desktop... Now I have windows XP, and I am looking again for the disney version... does somebody know where I can find it to download, or buy??? Please send me an email, I'm desperate...

FROM: some guy
DATE: Saturday January 15, 2005 -- 11:52:15 pm
hey, I still have all the files for Get The Picture. Someone with a lot of time and some money could probably reverse engineer the thing, get it stuck on some server, fix the whole thing up so nobody will ever know the difference.

FROM: another guy
DATE: Friday January 21, 2005 -- 4:42:56 pm
i have the after dark deluxe version (4.0) and i am greatly missing the original deluxe Marbles module. i have it, it just won't work on XP. i have all of the setup files and everything, and it works on 9x systems, i am just very much agitated that i can't see my favorite screensaver anymore... if anyone has any way to get past this or get it working, please say

FROM: Michael S.
DATE: Friday January 21, 2005 -- 4:49:43 pm
I wonder how many people still read this board? Anybody out there who wants to help a poor Trekkie is welcome to offer. :) I desperately want to have a copy of Star Trek: The Original Series screen saver package. I would love to find out how to avoid the problem in Windows XP with 10th Anniversary about 256 colors - we have WINXP Home and can't even set it below 16 bit color. Anybody know how to cheat the 256 color limit or have a copy of Star Trek: TOS they'd email me? I'd appreciate it greatly. Ask if you really want something in return, but I can't offer much by way of copies of After Dark. I will freely dispense advice on making old macintosh computer work again. ;) Thanks in advance.


FROM: Michael S.
DATE: Friday January 21, 2005 -- 5:11:29 pm
I read through the board again after my last post, and realized that my comment about "I wonder how many people still read this board" is rather offensive, given some earlier messages. What I meant was, I hope somebody is reading who can help me. Sorry if I hurt feelings, but I'm kind of new to asking for help this way! LOL. Thanks a lot.


DATE: Friday January 21, 2005 -- 6:05:03 pm
Hey Guys! :D Can you help me? I can't find the 'Bad Dog' screensaver....How can I get it?! could you guys send me a file for it or something?! Thanks! :-|
(I have WIN XP)

FROM: Lyndsey
DATE: Friday January 21, 2005 -- 7:33:25 pm
Can someone please send me the Bad Dog screen saver...i can't find it anywhere!! Thanks!!

FROM: Stacie
DATE: Sunday January 23, 2005 -- 4:26:55 am
I too am looking for the bad dog screensaver. Does anyone have one for Windows XP?? Thankyou! :)

FROM: AiboPet2003
DATE: Monday January 24, 2005 -- 1:53:30 pm
ALOT of fun, reading about other peeps who miss AD. I recently got a collection of AD to run on a REAL old Toshiba laptop (running 98se of course). I immediately remembered that I have SEVERAL other sets of AD from when I built machines in the 90s. I seem to remember a specific one with two or three little cats playing.....REALLY missed that. I think the CD I have is called "The Ultimate collection"...but it doesn't seem to be too ultimate. I am going to try and find all my AD floppies (Still should have 'em). I think I even had a few strange "one-off" modules that worked "with" AD. I just remembered seeing the pink floppy for the Energizer Bunny screensaver, and I think it installed as a module if you already had AD installed. Any help would be appreciated about just WHICH version of AD the little cats are on.

FROM: AiboPet2003
DATE: Monday January 24, 2005 -- 2:08:49 pm
A sign of the times:

I come back to work, and somebody IMMEDIATELY tells me to go answer that DAMN celphone locked up in my office. Turns out, it was the old Toshiba laptop (720CDT).....running the toasters, complete with the little Wagner "Flight of the Valkyrie" MIDI tune. Forgot how much I used to be SO astounded by how GOOD midi sounded at the time. Now that "sound" elicits "Answer your CEL PHONE!" responses. How times have changed! When I brought out that little laptop to the "common area", and employees got to actually SEE the toasters, I caught alot of employees just STARING at it...and so many "WOW!.....I remember that!"

So fun....I need to find this Ten Year anniversary collection now :-)

FROM: Annette Wallace
DATE: Tuesday January 25, 2005 -- 9:26:05 pm
Does anyone know where I can get the flying toasters screensaver? A teacher of mine used to have it and I really liked it and have not been able to find it since.....please help!!!

FROM: Laura
DATE: Tuesday January 25, 2005 -- 10:06:08 pm
I so much miss AfterDark! I used to have the Looney Tunes screensaver and totally loved it, but it was lost in a divorce (sigh). If anyone can point me in the right direction to replace it or where I might find the 10th Anniversary Edition (for the flying toasters, bad dog, etc.) I would be eternally grateful!

FROM: RedSpy
DATE: Tuesday January 25, 2005 -- 10:55:31 pm
Greetings. I haven't been here in a while, as the postings seemed to have died off. I'm glad to see people still care about After Dark. LOL My collection is pretty much complete, but I'm still looking for someone who can send me the Launch Pad program. If anyone would care to do some trading, I have just about all the other After Dark programs that I can find reference to. Let me know. Take care and Happy Trading!

FROM: Gir [E-Mail]
DATE: Saturday January 29, 2005 -- 7:30:22 pm
Hey, can someone give me a link to somewhere you can download Simpsons After Dark (In english this time) for Classic Mac? Thanks.


DATE: Saturday January 29, 2005 -- 11:38:22 pm
Sorry, I found a copy. Scratch that last reply. Could someone send me a working copy of After Dark 4.0 and some modules for it that's compatible with OS 9? I really need it. And please throw in all the extensions and data so it works. Thanks. My email is

FROM: Gir [E-Mail]
DATE: Monday January 31, 2005 -- 1:53:32 pm
Okay, I've found a working copy of After Dark 4.0 for Mac OS 9, but for some reason AD 4.0. and Totally Twisted modules won't work on it. So can someone please send me all the AD 4.0. extensions and data for the Macintosh Version? And can you also send me some modules for 4.0.? In return I'll send you a copy of Simspons After Dark and a couple other modules. My email is Thank you so much.

FROM: Franklin [E-Mail]
DATE: Wednesday February 9, 2005 -- 5:19:30 pm
Would love to get flying toasters on my WinXP. I guess AD 4.0 will do it in compatibility mode? Will that work? Where can I get it?

There are copies of After Dark Games CD's for sale on EBay... some say they come with screen savers... any info on those?

Please e-mail me if you have any information. Thanks!

FROM: Nathan
DATE: Thursday February 10, 2005 -- 7:14:02 pm
Does anyone know which version of After Dark had "Daredevil Dan" screensaver? I like to have it running on my WinXP. If you know where to download it, please feel free to give me a hyperlink.

FROM: Tetleys
DATE: Sunday February 20, 2005 -- 8:50:31 pm
I have windows 2000 and find that only a few of the modules work. Is there a patch or fix that I can get to get AD to work with all the modules????

DATE: Sunday February 20, 2005 -- 9:37:58 pm
Yeah, I'm looking for "Daredevil Dan" too. Can someone send it to me? I also need the "Hall of Fame" one and "Toaster 2K" from AD 10th Aniversary. And I also need the "Totally Twisted" Version with all the modules and recoures. So can someone please send them to me. Ignore all my other requests. This is all I need. Then I'll have all the modules. I'll send you all the AD things I have. This includes:

Simpsons After Dark
AD 2.0
AD 3.0
AD 4.0
AD X with Serial Numbers
After Dark Compatible for OS 9
After Dark Games
Star Trek
And Some 3rd Pary Modules like Barney Blaster

So you'll get all that if you are willing to trade. My emails and my AIM is girbhz. Thanks, bye!

DATE: Sunday February 20, 2005 -- 9:39:08 pm
Oh crap. I forgot. I have a mac. So send me dah mac versions. Thanks so much.

FROM: RedSpy
DATE: Tuesday February 22, 2005 -- 1:15:38 am
Greetings again, everyone. Once again, I am hoping to find someone who has the Launch Pad program for PC. It is the childrens' desktop program made by Berkeley Systems, and I am hoping to add it to my collection. Below is a list of my Berkeley Systems and After Dark programs that I have for trade.

After Dark 1.0 (DOS Version)
After Dark 2.0
After Dark 3.0
After Dark 3.2
After Dark 4.0
After Dark 4.1 Deluxe
After Dark Games
After Dark Midnight Collection
Complete After Dark Collection
10th Anniversary After Dark Edition
Disney Collection
Looney Tunes Edition
Marvel Screen Posters
More After Dark
Simpsons Edition
Snoopy's Screen Savers
Star Trek Movie Screen Posters
Star Trek: The Screen Saver
Star Trek: The Next Generation
Totally Twisted Edition
X-Men Screen Saver

Expresso (Date/Calendar Program)
StarDate (ST:TNG version of Expresso)
ScreenStudio for After Dark
Triazzle: Rainforest Edition
Before Light (competitor sued by After Dark)
Flintstones Collection (live-action Movie)
No Longer Dark - Millennium Edition
Scream Savers
Still in the Dark

If anyone would care to do some trading, send me an e-mail and let me know. Happy trading, folks!

FROM: RedSpy
DATE: Tuesday February 22, 2005 -- 1:19:13 am
Oops, I neglected to mention that I have the majority of the "You Don't Know Jack" CD's, as well, which were also made by Berkeley Systems. I also have another one in the same vein called "HeadRush". Hope to hear form someone soon. Happy trading!

FROM: bb
DATE: Saturday February 26, 2005 -- 5:13:46 pm
I just purchased a mac mini and got excited at the idea of playing lunatic fringe again. We wasted hours and hours of study time back in college with that module. If anyone has the mac module for lunatic fringe (part of AD deluxe), and could e-mail it to me, I would greatly apprecite it.

FROM: Ingyhere [E-Mail]
DATE: Friday March 11, 2005 -- 3:12:49 am
For Lunatic Fringe, try Maelstrom located at Ambrosia software, . If I remember right, they are essentially one in the same!

FROM: trulle
DATE: Tuesday March 15, 2005 -- 1:54:00 pm

FROM: RedSpy
DATE: Friday March 18, 2005 -- 9:13:46 pm
Greetings, After Dark fans. For anyone who wants the original Star Trek screen saver, here is a link where it can be downloaded. Enjoy!

FROM: Hudson
DATE: Tuesday March 22, 2005 -- 6:00:27 am
Help. How do I get after dark v 4 10th anniversary to run all the modules on windows XP ?

FROM: kolo
DATE: Tuesday March 22, 2005 -- 1:07:33 pm

FROM: Redspy
DATE: Tuesday March 22, 2005 -- 9:10:44 pm
Hudson, you cannot get all the modules from any After Dark version to work correctly on any operating system above Windows 3.1 -- I will try to explain. After Dark was made in the early 90's, when the fastest computers out there were 386-486 systems. The processors in modern computers run WAY too fast for the old After Dark engine. In my experimenting, I have discovered that most of the After Dark programs will work on Windows 95 and Windows 98. However, a few of the modules will run as if they have been tuned to high-speed warp mode. There is no way to slow them down. Also, some of the modules will say that they cannot be run, and will give you the generic "Starry Night" city-scape scene. This second problem can be fixed by going into your Control Panel and Display Properties, and changing your graphics settings back to 256-color mode. This will not change anything on your computer, but you will have to increase the grahics settings again to get the full depth and color that you enjoyed before when looking at pictures or web pages, etc. This is a small hassle, and I suggest just changing the settings when you want to leave the After Dark running. Then change them back for normal computer use. XP, ME, and the higher operating systems will not run After Dark. This is because Microsoft removed a lot of the basic graphics drivers as a cut-back when they made these systems. If you recall, they got a lot of complaints from consumers who couldn't play games on these systems because of this. Now the game manufacturers put DirectX drivers into folder on the game CD's, and Microsoft allows you to download the drivers from their website to fix most of these problems. Other than that, the system processors just run WAY too fast for the old After Dark engines. There are web sites that have tool kits to allow you to make After Dark and other programs run on XP, but they require some type of programming, and I have no idea how complicated it is, as I have never tried it. I suggest you do a web search for one of the tool kits. Anyway, I hope this answers some of your questions, and helps you out.

DATE: Thursday March 24, 2005 -- 12:24:22 pm
I have been looking all over for a copy of Totally Twisted After Dark. I used to have this screensaver a few years ago, but it was lost when I bought a new computer and was trying to transfer my old files and software. I still have my old Win98 running computer, but the Twisted AD program is gone. In my opinion, this was the best AD program released by Berkley. Very funny!
If anyone has a copy of this program you could send me I would be very grateful! My email is scott75"at" . I'm sorry, but I have nothing to trade. Any donations to my AD addiction will be greatly appreciated!

DATE: Friday March 25, 2005 -- 10:59:27 pm
Help, does anyone know, where can I find looney tunes edition screen saver?

DATE: Sunday March 27, 2005 -- 6:37:09 pm
I have the Disney module but I can't seem to get setup to install it but it won't let me. Is there a way to get around this? :(

Oh, and Abandoneer now has AD 3.0, which includes Bad Dog (no Boris though).

DATE: Sunday March 27, 2005 -- 6:38:29 pm
Sorry, forgot to post a name. Any help would be appreciated.

FROM: RedSpy
DATE: Wednesday March 30, 2005 -- 4:30:30 am
Greetings. Here are some responses to the last few postings that I hope will be helpful.

Scott, the Totally Twisted Edition can be found on eBay fairly cheap. It is one of the only PC versions that I ever see posted there. Most of the other After Dark programs are for MAC. I would be willing to trade it to you for something, but you said in your post you have nothing to trade.

EXone, there is no place online that I know of where you can download the Looney Tunes Edition. Believe me, I have been searching the web for years to build up my collection, and I know of no working site with a copy. If you have something to trade, drop me an e-mail, and I'll be happy to set you up with a copy.

Don, if you are using any of the "special edition" versions of After Dark (Disney, Simpsons, Looney Tunes, etc.) that loads from either 3.5" discs, or someone sent it to you in e-mail, there is a common problem with all of them. The SETUP.EXE file for each one has a tendency to become corrupted after either being copied, or after being loaded only once or twice. Unfortunately, each program's SETUP.EXE file is coded for that specific program, and they can't simply be interchanged with other programs. I have found in my experimenting that when the program files are saved onto a CD, it seems to fix the problem. But if you are using the floppies or a zipped or downloaded file, you will run into problems after one or to installs.

I hope this helps you guys out. Happy trading!

FROM: RedSpy
DATE: Wednesday March 30, 2005 -- 4:48:51 am
This is in response to the posting from "bb".

bb, I have sent you the two modules from After Dark 4.1 Deluxe that are needed to run "Lunatic Fringe". As the program is made to work on both Windows and Mac, they should work for you. Enjoy, and happy trading!

FROM: RedSpy
DATE: Friday April 1, 2005 -- 7:47:05 pm
Greetings. For those of you who keep sending me e-mails regarding trades for After Dark programs, you don't have to worry about offering me any After Dark programs for the ones you want. I have the entire line of After Dark programs, and I'm not looking for any. I am willing to trade for other programs, though. I am mostly into Star Trek, Star Wars, and other sci-fi related games and programs. Just let me know what you have to offer, and I'm sure we can do some wheeling and dealing. Happy trading, folks!

FROM: RedSpy
DATE: Sunday April 3, 2005 -- 3:09:07 am
Hello? Hello? Are we still on the air? Am I the only one hearing crickets?

DATE: Sunday April 3, 2005 -- 11:54:46 pm
Thanks for some of the help, but, er, my problem is that the setup won't load because it says I need Windows 3.1 or for Workgroups. I've tried everything short of installing them manually via DOSBox with a bootup iso, and I really don't want to bother with such a headache. Any luck on this problem? :\

Also, I've come up with another problem. Someone got me a copy of the 10th Anniversary edition and it works fine on 2k, but this more modern copy refuses to play the older modules (3.0 runs all the other ones fine). Is there a way to fix this? Thanks for any information if you have any (and thanks even if you don't have any).

FROM: RedSpy
DATE: Wednesday April 6, 2005 -- 6:07:20 am
Don, if you are trying to install Disney onto any operating system above Windows 98, you aren't going to have any luck. The older After Dark programs just aren't capable of operating on the higher, faster operating systems. The same goes for your 10th Anniversary. It's not a problem with the program. It's just that some of the modules were made to run on extremely slow systems, with only 256 colors, and just won't run on the fast systems. If you reduce your graphics display to 256 colors, most of the modules will then work, but some will still run way too fast. I posted a long message a few posts up explaining this. I hope this helps you out.

DATE: Wednesday April 6, 2005 -- 10:58:27 am
After dark simply will *never* die!

FROM: Chris Wyatt [E-Mail]
DATE: Wednesday April 6, 2005 -- 12:09:47 pm
To Michael S,
If you want 256 colours in Windows XP you have to open up Display in the Control Panel, go to the Settings tab and click the Advanced button, then open the Adaptor tab and click List All Modes, then you can work out the rest. Also, I miss After Dark Marbles and just want this one screensaver on my Win XP PC, and a question: are the AfterDark modules actual programs themselves or could they just be emulated to work under XP.

DATE: Thursday April 7, 2005 -- 2:10:36 pm

The After Dark modules are actually standard Windows DLL's (Dynamically Linked Library), that export one required routine: 'Module'. This routine is called by the After Dark 'Shell' (the .exe and the .scr executable files in the various versions).

DATE: Thursday April 7, 2005 -- 2:34:59 pm
Okay folks, I'm so happy to have found this place. I started thinking that I was the only one on the planet missing After Dark.

After originally buying version 1 and version 2 of After Dark long ago, I bought AD 4.0 (wich includes After Dark online) last week on E-Bay.

I was expecting nothing but to spend a couple of dollars dedicated to nostalgia. So great was my surprise when I discovered that *all* the modules of this version run on my XP Professional SP2 environment.

4.0 modules
Art Critic
Bad Dog!
CYb3r W@t
Fish World
Flying Toasters!
Guernsey Madness
Hula Twins
Life & All
Magic Turtle (no color cycling)
Messages 4.0
Out 'n About
Points of View
Psycho Deli
Rock Paper Scissors
Rodger Dodger
Shadow Agents
Slow Burn
Super Guy
Swirling Magic
Time Flies

'Classic' module
Starry Night (way too fast shooting stars)

I'm running 1280*1024 32 bit true color

Obviously color cycling will not work in this mode since it depends on palette rotation (much used in the earlier days, actually still used to animate the windows boot screens while loading the OS).

The Starry Night module clearly uses delay loops instead of Windows Timer messages to control speed and interval of the events.

All in all i'm quite happy!

O yeah before I forget, my son and daughter (10 and 8 yrs old) are in love with Bad Dog!


DATE: Thursday April 7, 2005 -- 2:49:32 pm
Inspired by the succes (see above) of reviving After Dark, I have been spelunking through my boxes with old software.

And behold, I found my original After Dark for Windows Version 2.0 box.

There was a flyer inside, showing After Dark merchandise!

Did you all know that there was available:

Flying Toasters (T-Shirt $10.95 / Sweatshirt $15.95)
Fantastic Fish (T-Shirt 11.95 / Sweatshirt $16.95)
The Flying Toaster Tie (Nave, Red, Forest Green or Burgundy $17.95)
The Modular Mouse Pad (see through mousepad with 8 AD designs $11.95)

There is a really nice picture showing people wearing all this stuff. One of them is holding a fully sized flying toaster, with its wings spread, on a leash.

I really have to scan this one for other 'oldies' that are interested.

Aw man, how could something so incredibly nice, completely evaporate?

BTW. the Flying Toasters are referred to as "the 51st Flying Toaster Squadron".

FROM: RedSpy
DATE: Friday April 8, 2005 -- 12:45:19 am
RedF, nice to see another "old timer" who loves After Dark. LOL By the way, I've seen the ties on eBay lately. Also, you might be interested to know that After Dark 4.1 Deluxe and the 10th Anniversary Collector's Edition will load into the default Windows screen saver control panel, and any others you load will then be in that control panel. I have the entire After Dark line, and these are the only two that will do that.

DATE: Friday April 8, 2005 -- 2:38:18 am

did you get the mail about launchpad I sent you?

After some digging I found out that the program I have is called 'Amish Launch', published in 1992. It was a bonus from Borland when I purchased one the first 'Borland Pascal with Objects' versions (the first Turbo Pascal I ever bought was version 1.0 for CP/M, mailed to me in the Netherlands in a handwritten envelope by Philippe Khan, feels like eons ago :-) )

FROM: RedSpy
DATE: Friday April 8, 2005 -- 8:16:26 am
RedF, no I never got the e-mail. Too bad it wasn't the origianl LaunchPad. That's the one I really want. I'd trade half my collection for a copy of the original LaunchPad that works. LOL Thanks for looking, though.

FROM: Chris Wyatt [E-Mail]
DATE: Saturday April 9, 2005 -- 5:59:57 pm
Thanks for the reply RedF, I've also ordered After Dark 4.0 so hopefully it'll work. I found this whilst Googling

FROM: RedSpy
DATE: Saturday April 9, 2005 -- 8:10:54 pm
RedF, if you are looking for any After Dark programs, let me know. I have the entire PC line. I'm willing to trade for other programs. Just let me know what you have, and which version of After Dark you want.

DATE: Monday April 11, 2005 -- 8:56:32 am
RedSpy, can you tell me if there ever existed a module called something like 'pixies dance' or 'fairies dance'?

I vaguely remember that it contains a set of swirling pixels wonderfully coordinated to the (MIDI) music. I don't know about colour variations etc. etc. just a wonderful fluid motion (given the hardware of that era) with lots of variations.

If you want, feel free to mail me.

FROM: Chris Wyatt
DATE: Wednesday April 13, 2005 -- 10:57:22 am
Please could someone send me the Marbles screensaver module. I only have the updated 4.0 module, which, just isn't as good as the original

FROM: RedSpy
DATE: Wednesday April 13, 2005 -- 9:50:46 pm
Chris, I sent you the Marbles modules from both After Dark 3.2, and After Dark 4.1 Deluxe. I hope one of them is the one you wanted. Enjoy!

FROM: RedSpy
DATE: Friday April 15, 2005 -- 10:16:07 pm
Chris, I also sent you the underwater fish modules that you requested. Please let me know that you got them and that they work okay for you.

FROM: after dark fan
DATE: Saturday April 16, 2005 -- 3:11:15 pm
Awhile back I stumbled across a archive site that seemed to have saved most of the orginal berkley systems site.

Including the after dark website, all of the links I tried worked perfectly. It also had the FREE Flying Toilets link that worked.

DATE: Sunday April 17, 2005 -- 9:25:44 am

for reasons beyond human knowledge, the direct mails you sent me never arrived :-)

Could you try this email address please? I'm trusting the Yahoo spam filters more than the one's from my local provider.....

And, I won the DeLuxe edition on an ebay auction. Yippee!

FROM: RedSpy
DATE: Sunday April 17, 2005 -- 10:20:58 am
RedF, what is it that you are wanting me to send you in e-mail? I answered the questions you asked me. I don't know what else you are asking for. By the way, After Dark 4.1 Deluxe and 10th Anniversary Collector's Editions will load the After Dark Control Panel into the Windows 95 & Windows 98 Screen Saver Control Panel, making it work a lot easier. These are the only two versions of After Dark that will do that. Of course, any other versions loaded will also go into the Windows panel if you have one of these two loaded. Just thought you would like to know that.

DATE: Sunday April 17, 2005 -- 12:25:42 pm
That's what I meant, the mail with your answer never made it to me :( So I'm still wondering about the pixies dance.... (strangely, the mail via eBay came right through).

And now, I've started looking into loading the 16-bit DLL's under XP. First step is trying to find out what causes the dynamic linkage to fail for them.

FROM: Robert Thompson
DATE: Wednesday April 20, 2005 -- 11:29:32 am
I need infomation on how to get the registration code to reload my Star Trek/TNG screensaver.
Can you find the code using the debug program?

FROM: RedSpy
DATE: Wednesday April 20, 2005 -- 9:46:32 pm
Robert, the Serial Code for the floppy disc version of Star Trek: The Next Generation Screen Saver is -
Actually, this is a generic catch-all serial that will work with any of the After Dark screen saver programs. Enjoy!

FROM: Chris Wyatt
DATE: Thursday April 21, 2005 -- 2:53:35 pm
Sorry I took so long to reply, the screensavers don't seem to be working. I have After Dark 4.0 on XP SP2, I just get the default Starry Night screensaver and an error message telling me it couldn't load the module. MARBLES.ZIP is passwork protected.

FROM: Marc
DATE: Friday April 22, 2005 -- 8:58:20 pm
RedSpy: would you be willing to email me a copy of "ad_snd.dll" suitable for AD4.0? Mine is corrupt, and I can't get it to load because of that.

BTW, AD4.0 *does* manage to load itself into the Win95 control panel for me. (well, into the Display section of it, if that's what you mean).

I'm trying to trace through what it does to the registry etc so I can load it on 2kPro. The MS App Compatibility Toolkit did nothing for me. Looks like it would have been okay for the 10th Anniversary one, but had nothing for AD4.0.

FROM: RedSpy
DATE: Friday April 22, 2005 -- 10:03:14 pm
Marc, I sent the file you requested. I took it directly from After Dark 4.0, so it should work for you. Let me know if you have any problems.

FROM: RedSpy
DATE: Friday April 22, 2005 -- 10:04:25 pm
Marc, I sent you the file you requested, taken directly from After Dark 4.0, so it should work for you. Let me know if you have any other problems.

FROM: RedSpy
DATE: Wednesday April 27, 2005 -- 9:48:58 pm
Greetings. I'm still hoping to find someone who has a copy of the Berkeley Systems program called LaunchPad, which was a desktop for kids. Most people think I am talking about the later program that used hot keys in Windows. This is not the same thing. If you have any of the After Dark screen savers on CD-ROM, look in the Demos folder on the CD, and you will see a demo for LaunchPad. This is the program I'm looking for. I have the full line of After Dark products for Windows, as well as several for MAC, and will be willing to make it well worth your while if you can provide me with LaunchPad. Thanks, and happy trading!

DATE: Thursday April 28, 2005 -- 6:53:34 am

I found an online pricelist that still contains "Launch Pad Kid-Safe Desktop..... Mac/Win". I mailed the URL directly to you(before everybody orders it :) ).

FROM: RedSpy
DATE: Saturday April 30, 2005 -- 5:24:12 am
RedF, yes, I got your e-mail. Thanks so much! That is the exact program I am looking for! I sent them an e-mail, but I still haven't gotten a response. I have a feeling that they are no longer in business. But it was certainly worth a try! I really appreciate your help!

FROM: RedSpy
DATE: Saturday April 30, 2005 -- 5:27:04 am
Greetings again. Earlier this month (the 16th) an "After Dark Fan" posted a link to a site that supposedly had a lot of After Dark modules for download. Just wanted to let you know that I downloaded every file on the site, which were all in zipped files, and not a single one worked. Each one said it was bad or incomplete. Apparently, the actual files are no longer available on the server site. Really too bad.

FROM: RedSpy
DATE: Thursday May 5, 2005 -- 10:43:47 pm
Greetings. I have determined, through my experimentation, that several other screen savers not made by After Dark will load into and run in the After Dark Control Panel just as the Flintstones Movie screen saver will. I have now determined that the Jurassic Park and Rocky & Bullwinkle screen savers will load into After Dark. Long out of production, both were made by Asymetrix Entertainment, which used a control panel very similar to After Dark's panel. I have recently obtained a few other out of production screen savers, and I will be testing them to determine their compatibility. Just thought some of you would like to know what I found out. Take care, and happy trading!

FROM: RedSpy
DATE: Friday May 6, 2005 -- 12:30:24 am
Greetings once again. If anyone needs scans of the After Dark Screen Savers Quick Reference Guide, drop me an e-mail, and I'll be happy to send it to you. I also wanted to let everyone know that I have the original boxes for most of the After Dark programs, and if you would care for scans of the front and back of the box for a particular product, I'm happy to send them to you. I'm working on my collection of original boxes, and hope to have all of them before too much longer. I also have a couple of unusual items, like a promotional mailer sent out to promote the new releases of the Star Trek TNG Screen Saver, and StarDate. I also just obtained a promotional sheet with several of the screen saver products, and the sheet describing the sale items they used to offer, such as ties, cups, etc. They are in full color, and make an interesting addition if you collect the documentation for these products. Just thought I would let everyone know. Take care, and happy trading!

DATE: Friday May 6, 2005 -- 4:31:23 pm
Spy, I found another link. This time within a well known on-line store. And since there is only 1 available and it contains a 'buy now' button I'm not even going to hint at it. I sent the link to you in a direct mail. And I'll keep my fingers crossed for you this weekend.

FROM: RedSpy
DATE: Friday May 6, 2005 -- 5:54:47 pm
RedF, I got the link. Thanks so much. Unfortunately, I'm not paying $50 for one 3.5" floppy disc. LOL I'll find someone to trade with one of these days. Thanks for looking out for me! I really appreciate it! I wish that first site would answer their e-mails. LOL

FROM: myke
DATE: Wednesday May 11, 2005 -- 7:09:37 pm
I have after dark 4.0 for windows. I also have several modules that claim that they can work with anything greater than after dark 3.0. I have the disney collection, still in the dark and many others including the bungee jumpers. I can not get them to work (except the 4.0 modules that installed) and i was wondering if anyone here knew how to get them to work with after dark 4.0. all are copied to my c:\afterdrk\after dark directory c:\.....\still dark, c:\.....\disney collection. Any help on this is greatly appreciated.

Thanx in advance

FROM: RedSpy
DATE: Wednesday May 11, 2005 -- 11:13:21 pm
Myke, some After Dark programs require you to re-install them if you install another product after it was installed. This is just a glitch, because the After Dark engine that is the primary has to read all the installed modules, and can only due this during the installation process. I would suggest re-installing either 4.0 or the Disney Collection again, and when the engine kicks in during the re-boot, it should read all the modules. I hope this helps.

FROM: RedSpy
DATE: Tuesday May 17, 2005 -- 1:17:08 am
Myke, did the re-install work for you? I haven't heard back from you. Just wondering.

FROM: Sogarth
DATE: Wednesday May 18, 2005 -- 9:30:00 pm
5 years after the original post and still people shouting for Get the picture. How damn dumb to those people to be to realise that there are loads of people yearning to play that game again. Someone forward this thread to those stupid bastards!

FROM: Disneyguy
DATE: Tuesday May 24, 2005 -- 5:47:52 pm
I ran across this site while searching for AD 4.0 support. (Ha!)

eBay has almost every AD module for sale reasonably cheap. Now if they would all work in XP Pro SP2 I'd finally be happy.

FROM: cory
DATE: Wednesday May 25, 2005 -- 12:09:49 am
Hi. I'm googling to search for Stained Glass from the After Dark series. I lost mine at my job and now I have Windows XP. Any suggestions? I'm not a geek and am totally astounded at the number of people who are seeking for old stuff, just like I am.
Thank you very much, and thanks for the site.

FROM: Diana
DATE: Monday June 6, 2005 -- 10:15:19 am
Please please please.. i need get the picture, cosmic consensus or you don't know jack.. I am dying here! Are there any places where these games are? Why did bezerk do this.. I played these games forever.. if anyone finds any of the games I've listed.. e-mail asap!

FROM: RedSpy
DATE: Monday June 6, 2005 -- 11:00:11 pm
Diana, Get the Picture and Cosmic Consensus are very hard to find, but all the You Don't Know Jack CDs are available for sale on eBay. You can also find HeadRush, which is the twisted version of You Don't Know Jack. I don't know of anyplace where you can download them or play them online, unfortunately. I hope this helps.

FROM: Marlene
DATE: Tuesday June 7, 2005 -- 4:49:15 am
I have looked everywhere for the bad dog screensaver. I had it once and would like to find it again. If anyone can help me I would greatly appreciate it.

FROM: Pandora
DATE: Tuesday June 7, 2005 -- 5:54:23 pm
Ok, just like you, I am JONES'in for GTP... I actually go to sleep at night now, which is friggen unheard of! Here's a couple of somewhat hopeful links.

This guy says he has it in beta and will be releasing it this summer... I say we bum rush him to distribute more copies of the beta so we can also "TEST" it!!!
Here's the link

the other thing I came across was this:
they give a free 15 day trial... I'm off to test it out.
Wish us all luck!

FROM: RedSpy
DATE: Wednesday June 8, 2005 -- 2:05:41 am
Marlene, "Bad Dog" is a module contained in most of the generic After Dark collections. It is not a stand-alone screen saver. You have to have a working After Dark Engine to use it. Just thought you would like to know.

DATE: Thursday June 16, 2005 -- 1:55:37 am
Wow, great to hear that Get the Picture is coming back! What an awesome game. It's weird to think that this message board was made way back in 2000, and since then, both Acrophobia and now Get the Picture are revived. Way to go. Excellent. cool.

FROM: justme
DATE: Wednesday June 22, 2005 -- 12:22:48 pm
There has been an alternative to GTP for a few years now...

FROM: Alistair in Emeryville, CA
DATE: Saturday July 2, 2005 -- 1:26:45 pm
How sad that no one is able to create a new screen saver application in which to run the After Dark modules. I loved After Dark and had every package. Unfortunately I threw them all out a couple of years ago. Grrrrr. I really miss having X-Men, or the Simpsons, or Star Trek's Data dancing - all on my desktop. if anyone comes up with a way to run these with Win XP or Win XP 64 then I'll be sure to buy it.

FROM: Emiliano
DATE: Monday July 4, 2005 -- 3:19:35 am

i found on this torrent a perfect remake of after dark's Flying toaster!!!

FROM: Brandemiesimo
DATE: Saturday July 9, 2005 -- 5:33:03 pm
where can i get "Launch Pad, Kid-Safe Desktop". It was on my grandma's computer, but now all we have in the manual. I would like to use the program again but i don't know how to get my hands on it. Help anyone?

FROM: RedSpy
DATE: Tuesday July 19, 2005 -- 2:08:03 am
Brandemiesimo, Good luck finding LaunchPad. I've been looking for it for quite a while myself. I found one person who had the single disc for sale, but he wanted $55.00 as a starting bid, which is ridiculous for one floppy. There is a website run from another country that lists all the Berkeley products, including LaunchPad, but I have not been able to get them to answer any of my numerous e-mails requesting a purchase, so I think the site is gone. If you have any luck, let me know, and I will do the same for you.

FROM: Gerda
DATE: Saturday July 23, 2005 -- 3:21:55 pm
I own "Triazzle" by Berkely Systems (Ser. Nr. TRZ-41257-9637). The 'Help-file' will not come up. How can you advise me? Gerda

FROM: Yami Pegasus
DATE: Saturday July 30, 2005 -- 4:15:27 pm
Does anyone know where I can get the Windows version of After Dark 4.0? I have Win98, so compatibility shouldn't be a problem, but I especially want Roger Dodger. Thanx in advance.

FROM: Undiggy
DATE: Monday August 1, 2005 -- 6:13:30 pm
will any body help me !!!!!! will some body please send me acopy of the after dark disney and star trek i will send a copy of the full after dark cd if anyone can supply me with this!!!!!!!!!!!

FROM: RedSpy
DATE: Wednesday August 3, 2005 -- 11:18:59 pm
Yami Pegasus, I have the full version of After Dark 4.0 for Windows PC, if you have something to trade for it. I have every After Dark product for Windows PC. I will be happy to trade with you. Let me know.

FROM: Yami Pegasus
DATE: Friday August 5, 2005 -- 5:07:32 pm
What kind of a trade do you want?

FROM: Jorge
DATE: Sunday August 7, 2005 -- 7:48:40 pm
hello redspy! it's been a long time! I see that you already have the x men module!!! could you please be so kind and send it to my mail? I have no other program to trade for it and it is the last one I really want to have. well hope you agree. see ya!

FROM: RedSpy
DATE: Tuesday August 9, 2005 -- 11:08:20 am
Jorge, X-Men is not a module, but a full stand-alone program, like Simpsons, Disney, etc. It is 3 meg in size. If you have something to send my way in trade for it, let me know what you have to offer.

FROM: Jorge
DATE: Wednesday August 10, 2005 -- 1:57:00 am
REdspy! well I know that ... hmmmm besides the launch pad program you have some other program in mind? like I said last time I don't have many programs. mostly games. some very old game perhaps? hehe .. let me know.

FROM: RedSpy
DATE: Wednesday August 10, 2005 -- 2:18:12 am
Jorge, you'll have to let me know what games you have. I'm mostly interested in sci-fi related games.

FROM: beto
DATE: Wednesday August 10, 2005 -- 7:52:30 pm
hi, redspy you are a blessing angel..... you are so kind and patient to explain the needed for explanation on how to solve their problems... and give them programs and so.....

i've for many years looked for 'the simpsons screensaver i used to have', but no one was able to tell me the name, even i gave them all sort of explanations on how the SCR was, nobody seemed to remember... i started to think that I only imagined it or dreamed that SCR... till now.-.....

i would be FOREVER GRATEFUL if i have an AD engine that runs well in a celeron 400 mhz, 128 ram(expandable, im on it), running W98SE, with the simpsons module....... (i've been expecting this moment, thats why I haven't upgrade my OS)

my email is and it accepts 20MB atachments...


PS sorry for my english...... i also send a mail to your account....


FROM: Jorge
DATE: Wednesday August 10, 2005 -- 10:13:32 pm
Redspy do you have the star wars screen entertainment?

FROM: beto
DATE: Thursday August 11, 2005 -- 1:34:17 am
jorge and redspy, please, chek your spam trays..... i have email you...... help me please..... i'll thank you eternally.......

FROM: RedSpy
DATE: Thursday August 11, 2005 -- 10:26:13 pm
Jorge, yes, I have the Star Wars Limited Edition Entertainment Utility. There are a number in that series. I have:

Star Wars Trilogy
Star Trek: Deep Space Nine
Star Trek: Voyager
Babylon 5
Lost in Space (Classic TV)
Terminator 2
Jurassic Park: The Lost World

I believe I have one or two others, but I can't think of them off the top of my head.

FROM: RedSpy
DATE: Thursday August 11, 2005 -- 10:29:17 pm
Beto, I answered your e-mail. As I said previously, I'm interested in sci-fi games and programs, or rare screen savers. If you have something to trade, let me know.

FROM: Yami Pegasus
DATE: Thursday August 11, 2005 -- 11:24:25 pm
I will trade any of the following for After Dark 4.0:
Pac Pack (Includes Pac-Guy, Pac-Guy: Resurrection, Pac-Guy Christmas Edition, Pac-Guy 2, and Pac-Guy 2 Part 2 Pagoon)
"BOARD GAME" (A collection of board games)
Virtual Golf

That's not much, but I'm not enough of a techie to trade some, and I don't know the copyright laws well enough to trade others.

FROM: Jorge
DATE: Friday August 12, 2005 -- 12:01:13 am
it seems you already have everything i got redspy :D what about audioclips the next generation? it is not much but it is rare I believe. the interesting thing is that you can assign sounds to any program in windows (at least works in win98)

FROM: RedSpy
DATE: Friday August 12, 2005 -- 7:27:36 am
Jorge, I already have tons of audio clips from Trek and other movies and shows, but thanks anyway.

Yami Pegasus, friendly trading of old software in a forum like this is never a problem with copyright laws, as far as I know.

FROM: Tails
DATE: Tuesday August 16, 2005 -- 11:45:46 pm
Hey, great to see some old time BerkSys supporters out here! I still have the FRENCH version of you don't know jack! (I was a beta tester... very rare!)

What I was really look for was if anyone had seen any of the old flying toasters merchandise, especially the blow-up toaster! I used to have one at work (hey, I work for a computer retailer :) but time has beeen cruel!

FROM: bort
DATE: Friday August 19, 2005 -- 6:48:26 am
There was once a collection of 90 major US college and universities that were all licensed and distributed with the After Dark engine. All of the screensavers had specific histories, stories, and traditions details, with historic photos, 'recent' photos, and animated card stunts for every school. Sold individually at the colleges. A third party developer made them, but they were are officially sanctioned by Berk Systems. Schools like USC, UCLA, North Carolina, Michigan, Florida, Iowa - almost all the majors from all over the country. Funny how they all disappeared when after dark stopped being supported. TOo bad too.

FROM: Valerie
DATE: Friday August 19, 2005 -- 11:42:13 pm
Cosmic consensus is back! Come play here, its just the same as it once was, with a new name, Discordi.

FROM: Charl
DATE: Saturday August 20, 2005 -- 2:44:20 am
Can someone please give me a link to the After dark screensaver for windows. i dont want to pay for it

FROM: Flying Toaster
DATE: Tuesday August 23, 2005 -- 2:55:54 am
Nice topic. I remember having After Dark 2.0 installed on my 1st new computer in 1992. When I got bored then I let AD entertain me. Btw, it's quite impossible now to get the whole collection. Lets say: AD 2.0, AD 3.2, More AD, Marvel, ST - The Next Generation, ST - Star Date, Looney Tunes, Disney, AD Deluxe, AD Games, AD Classic, AD 4.0, Simpsons, ST - Movie Poster, AD 10th Anniversary, AD Totally Twisted. I wish if there is CD packed with complete collection. Any suggestion?

FROM: Flying Toaster
DATE: Tuesday August 23, 2005 -- 3:29:24 am
RedSpy, congratulation for having the most complete colection of After Dark. Anyway, coud you kindly send me AD Midnight, AD Deluxe, X-Men and Star Wars Screen Entertainment? I know that I ask alot but I think your generousity will make you help me.

FROM: RedSpy
DATE: Wednesday August 24, 2005 -- 6:22:35 am
Flying Toaster: Yes, I seem to have a fairly complete collection, but unfortunately, they are too large to send in e-mail. I am on a standard dial-up modem, and just can't send out stuff that large. As for your suggestion, I put the entire collection together on one CD-ROM for a gentleman in Australia who wanted to buy the entire collection. With the DEMOS and AOL folders removed, they will all fit onto one CD-ROM, believe it or not. As for my generosity, I used to send them out when asked, but people stopped sending me the programs they promised in return, so I don't do that any more. If you have anything worth trading, I'm always willing and able to do some trading, but I don't just give them away any more.

FROM: anon
DATE: Saturday August 27, 2005 -- 12:44:43 pm
Cosmic is back

FROM: boozer
DATE: Monday August 29, 2005 -- 7:26:39 pm
i used to perform technical support for berkeley systems during the heyday of afterdark 3.x , 4.x onto the launch of YDKJ and the netshow.

hacked the heck out of ad 4.0 to get it to run on nt 4 (at the time that was a big deal)

i still have quite a collection of after dark, berkeley systems merchandise.

it was quite a bummer that the company that was started with such high standards took a giant crapper once the bigger boys took hold (Talking about u CUC) They tried to get us to move to Washington to continue on the high tech support standard that we had set. There was no way I was heading up there to leave my sunny cal. behind.

strange to see such a cult following for these ancient screens. You know we did release a SDK (Software Development Kit) so that users could create their own designs , we even held contests , had users submit their code and on Totally Twisted we used one of those winners submissions.

Riding down the slide every day into the lunch room was grand. The web cam pointed directly at the little odwalla fridge (never had to leave your desk to see if your favorite beverage was available) .... ahhh the days before .com meant anything.

i went on to work for the SUN and many other high tech companies in the bay area.

now i live peacefully in the mountains with wife , kids and the technical support role continues -- only this time its with high end broadcast clients, not the average home user. Boy did I learn alot working there....

peace and RIP

FROM: boozer
DATE: Monday August 29, 2005 -- 7:52:25 pm
the master list:

Here is a helpful list of displays so you know exactly which ones come with each product.
After Dark 4.0 (22 displays + Randomizer)
Art Critic / Bad Dog! / CYb3r W@t / Fish World / Flying Toasters! / Guernsey Madness / Hula Twins / Life & All / Magic Turtle / Marbles! / Messages 4.0 / Out 'n About / Points of View / Psycho Deli / Rainforest / Rock Paper Scissors / Rodger Dodger / Shadow Agents / Slow Burn / Swirling Magic / Super Guy / Time Flies
After Dark Deluxe (84 displays + Randomizer)
Art Critic / Bad Dog! / CYb3r W@t / Fish World / Flying Toasters! / Guernsey Madness / Hula Twins / Life & All / Magic Turtle / Marbles! / Messages 4.0 / Out 'n About / Points of View / Psycho Deli / Rainforest / Rock Paper Scissors / Rodger Dodger / Shadow Agents / Slow Burn / Swirling Magic / Super Guy / Time Flies / Artist / Bad Dog / Bogglins / Boris / Bugs / Can of Worms / Clocks / Confetti Factory / Dardevil Dan / DOS Shell / Down the Drain / Draw Morph / Einstein / Fish Pro / Flying Toasters Pro / Flying Toilets / Fractal Forest / Frost and Fire / Geo Bounce / Globe / Gravity / Lunatic Fringe / Mandelbrot / Marbles / Meadow / Messages / Modern Art / Mountains / Mowin' Man / Nirvana / Nocturnes / Nonsense / Om Appliances / Pearls / Photon / Punch Out / Puzzle / Rain / Rat Race / Ray / Rebound / Rose / Satori / Shapes / Slide Show / Spheres / Spin Brush / Spiral Gyra / Spotlight / Stained Glass / Starry Night / Strange Attractors / String Theory / Sunburst / Tunnel / Warp! / You Bet Your Head / Zooommm! / Zot!
After Dark Classic (25 displays + Randomizer)
Bad Dog / Bogglins / Boris / Bugs / Clocks / Fish Pro / Flying Toasters / Flying Toilets / Geo Bounce / Globe / Lunatic Fringe / Marbles / Messages / Mountains / Modern Art / Mowin' Man / Nirvana / Puzzle / Rain / Randomizer / Rat Race / Rose / Satori / Slide Show / Spheres / Stained Glass / You Bet Your Head
The Totally Twisted After Dark Screen Saver (13 displays + Randomizer)
Bungee Roulette / Chameleons / ComingSoon! / Flying Toilets / Franken Screen / Message Mayhem / Mike's So-called Life / Mime Hunt / Mown'Boris / Phlegm Boy / Shock Clocks / Toxic Swamp / Voyeur
After Dark for Windows 95 (45 displays + Randomizer)
Artist / Bad Dog! / Bogglins / Boris / Bugs / Clocks 3.0 / Confetti Factory / Dardevil Dan / DOS Shell / Draw Morph / Fish Pro / Flying Toasters Pro / Frost and Fire / Geo Bounce / Globe / Guts / Logo / Marbles / Messages / Mountains / Mowin' Man / MuliModule / Nirvana / Nocturnes / Nonsense / Om Appliances / Photon / Punch Out / Puzzle / Rain / Randomizer / Rat Race / Ray / Rebound / Rose / Satori / Slide Show / Spheres / Spotlight / Stained Glass / Swans / Tunnel / Warp! / You Bet Your Head / Zooommm!
After Dark for Windows 3.0 (29 displays + Randomizer & MultiModule)
Aquatic Realm / Artist / Bad Dog / Bugs / Clocks / Daredevil Dan / DOS Shell / Draw Morph / Flying Toasters / Frost & Fire / Guts / Logo / Messages / Nirvana / Nonsense / Photon / Puzzle / Rat Race / Ray / Rebound / Rose / Satori / Slide Show / Spheres / Spotlight / StarryNite / Warp! / You Bet Your Head / Zooommm!
After Dark for Windows 2.0 (40 displays + Randomizer & MultiModule)
Aquatic Realm (Fish!) / Can of Worms / Clocks / Down the Drain / Fade Away / Flying Toasters / GeoBounce / Globe / Graph Stat / Gravity / Hall of Mirrors / Hard Rain / Lasers / Logo / Magic / Marbles / Messages / Mondrian / Mountains / Nocturnes / Penrose / Punch Out / Puzzle / Rainstorm / Rose / Satori / Shapes / Slide Show / Sounder / Spheres / Spiral Gyra / Spotlight / Stained Glass / StarryNite / String Theory / Swan Lake / Vertigo / Warp! / WrapAround / Zot!
More After Dark for Windows (26 displays)
Bogglins / Boris / Bulge / Confetti Factory / Dominoes / Einstein / Flocks / Fractal Forest / Guts / Lunatic Fringe / Mandelbrot / Meadow / Modern Art / Mosaic / Mowin' Man / Om Appliances / Origami / Pearls / Rain / Say What? / Snake / Spin Brush / Strange Attractors / Sunburst / Tunnel
After Dark for DOS 1.0 (33 displays)
Aquatic Realm / Atomic / Boris / Can of Worms / Clock / Dominoes / Down the Drain / Fade Away / Flying Toasters / Globe / GraphStat / Gravity / Life / Logo / Messages / Modern Art / Mountains / Mowin' Man / Nocturnes / Punch Out / Puzzle / Ripple / Rose / Satori / Slide Show / Spheres / Spiral Gyra / Spotlight / Stained Glass / Starry Skyline / Tunnel / Warp! / Zot!

After Dark for Mac 3.0 (32 displays + Randomizer & MultiModule)
Artist / Bad Dog / Bugs / Clock / Daredevil Dan / DOS Shell / Draw Morph / Fade Away / Fish!(Aquatic Realm) / Flying Toasters / Frost & Fire / Guts / Logo / Marbles / Messages / Movies 'Til Dawn / Nirvana / Nonsense / Photon / Puzzle / Rat Race / Ray / Rebound / Rose / Satori / Screen Blanker / Slide Show / StarryNite / Vista (Power Mac only) / Warp! / You Bet Your Head / Zooommm!
After Dark for Mac 2.0 (30 displays + Randomizer & MultiModule)
Bouncing Ball / Can of Worms / Clock / Doodles / Down the Drain / Fade Away / Fish! (Aquatic Realm) / Flying Toasters / Hard Rain / Lissajous / Logo / Messages / NightLines / PICS Player / Picture Frame / Puzzle / Rainstorm / Rose / Satori / Shapes / Skyline / Slide Show / Spheres / Spotlight / StarryNite / StringTheory / Supernova / Vertigo / Warp / Zot!
More After Dark for Mac (28 displays)
Boris / Confetti Factory / Dominoes / GeoBounce / Globe / Graph Stat / Gravity / Hallucinations / Life II / Lunatic Fringe / MAD (More) Fish! / Mandelbrot / Meadow / Modern Art / Mountains / Mowin' Man / Nocturnes / Punch Out / Rain / Ripple / Say What? / Snake / Spiral Gyra / Stained Glass / Terraform / Tunnel / WrapAround
Art of Darkness for Macintosh (10 displays)
Blackboard / Bogglins / Fractal Forest / Major Metaphysical Appliances / Movies 'Til Dawn / Pearls / Proto Toasters / Spin Brush / Strange Attractors / Sunburst
The Simpsons Screen Saver (15 displays + Randomizer; will not run in MultiModule)
Chalkboard / Files / Grampa's Wisdom / Grass Skirts / Homer Eats / How to Draw / Itchy & Scratchy / Krusty / Lisa's Mood Swings / Mr. Burns / Objets B'art / Physics / Simpsons Clocks / Simpsons Trivia / Snowball I
The StarTrek:The Next Generation Screen Saver (13 displays + Randomizer; will not run in MultiModule)
Counselor Troi / Data Dances / Encounters / Nanites / Officer's Review (trivia) / Personnel Files / Science Stations / Starbase / Starfleet Messages / Tachyon Particle Field / The Borg / Warp Effect / Worf's Weapons
The Looney Tunes Animated Screen Saver (12 displays + Randomizer; will not run in MultiModule)
ACME Home Shopping / Cartoons 101 / Conduktor / Desquetoppe D'Amour / Marvin's Invasion / Messages / Michigan J. Frog / Putty Tat Splat! / Rabbitron / Taz Desktop / Wockets Wed Gware / Yosemite Sam
Star Trek: The Screen Saver (16 displays + Randomizer & MultiModule)
Brain Cells / Sickbay / Communications (like Message) / Final Exam (interactive trivia game) / Final Frontier (show opening) / Horta / Ship Panels / Spock / Ion Storm (colorful graphics) / Planetary Atlas / Scotty's Files (technical plans) / Sounder (sound bytes from show) / Space (like Fish! with space ships) / The Mission (Kirk on the bridge) / Tholian Web / Tribbles
The Disney Collection Screen Saver (16 displays + Randomizer; will not run in MultiModule; * has music)
101 Dalmatians / Beauty* / Captain Hook* / Cheshire Cat / Digital Ink (old and new Mickeys) / Disney Clocks (Owl, Ducks, Cogsworth [from Beauty], Tron [digital], Mickey, Goofy [runs backwards]) / Donald Paints (has big picture of Mickey from front of box) / Falling Flowers* (from Fantasia) / Goofy / Haunted (old Mickey) / Jungle Book / Little Mermaid* (like Fish!) / Magic Kingdom (has fireworks) / Pinocchio (interactive when you hit Caps Lock) / Scrooge (Donald's uncle) / The Sorcerer* (Mickey and the brooms from Fantasia)
Marvel Screen Posters (36 posters; doesn't come with MultiModule, but will run in it)
Spider Man (8) / X-Men (5) / Capt. America (3) / Wolverine (4) / Cable / Sabretooth (2) / The Incredible Hulk (2) / Silver Surfer (2) / Fantastic Four (2) / Iron Man / 2099 / Daredevil & Elektra / Venom & Carnage / Magneto / Storm & Gambit (w/ Wolverine) / The Thing / Avengers / Ghost Rider / Thor / The Punisher / She-Hulk / Silver Sable / The Human Torch
Star Trek Screen Posters (45 posters; doesn't come with MultiModule, but will run in it)
ships/planets/space (19) / movie posters/artwork (9) / Kirk (some with bad guys) (3) / Spock (4) / Chekov / several crew members (5) / Starfleet HQ / Klingons (2) / Khan

Send comments and suggestions about our website to:

DATE: Thursday September 1, 2005 -- 7:51:02 pm
I happened to find this page by accident through a search engine. I recently revived an old socket 7 machine. I would like to thank those that posted links to the Trek screensaver. I had it, but I lost the reg number long ago. A while after that, I lost the floppies it came on. I have been carrying those old modules for a long time, but they got corrupted, and they wouldn't play anymore.

For those that are having trouble making it work on Windows 9X: Install Startrek first. Don't let it modify your configuration files. Shut it down ASAP, then don't run it again. If you install a product like After Dark 4 over it, it will then make a folder for Startrek, then it will update your modules, so it will run properly. It will still require 256 colors for some modules, but most of them will run including "The mission" (One of my favorites) I can't speak for XP, but it will run under 98. There is one thing that bothers me, though. I wish that Psycho Deli & Nirvana would have made an attempt to redraw the pixels, when not in 256 color mode. It would have been aweful slow, but it would look great on a modern machine. I don't like how the screen gets messed up in 256 color mode.
Just my opinion. I noticed some comments from August 2005, so I figured the horse wasn't dead yet.

FROM: Jorge
DATE: Saturday September 10, 2005 -- 1:52:47 pm
Is there anyone else who has the x - men afterdark program and is willing to share it or trade it for other afterdark scren savers please? I have almost all of them and the x - men is the final one I'm looking for. thanks!

DATE: Sunday September 11, 2005 -- 11:41:56 pm
There has got to be a way to get the word out about discordi (cosmic consensus) so that more people will play the game. Every time i go to play there is only like 4 or 5 people playing it at a time. Spread the word, make discordi well known! By the way, those abercromnie, backwards hat wearing, tatoos of barbwire on arm, sag pants to their knees, pricks... yeah, those guys are called CHODES. Get the word out about that too.

DATE: Monday September 12, 2005 -- 12:46:46 am
I used to be a beta tester for Berkeley. I remember "Cosmic Consensus" back when it was "What's the Big Idea?" I'm surprised no one has mentioned that yet.

Still trying to get the old AD modules running under XP, still no luck. I never collected all of the AD programs. But I do have a French and a German version of YDKJ. :) Ah, good times...

FROM: Flying Toaster
DATE: Monday September 12, 2005 -- 5:12:26 am
RedSpy, what a great idea to put all After Dark collections on 1 CD! I wish I got my hands on it. Boozer, do you have AD Midnight, AD Deluxe, Star Trek Movie Posters, X-Men? Can you kindly send it to me? Thx in advance.

FROM: Always Waiting
DATE: Tuesday September 13, 2005 -- 6:51:24 pm
Man... found this website just by sifting through anything for Get the Picture, the old Berkeley Systems game. I LOVED IT SO MUCH! I'm really hoping it will be available soon.

FROM: Phil Bosley [E-Mail]
DATE: Wednesday September 14, 2005 -- 2:06:49 am
Holy crap. Back again yet ANOTHER two years later, and here it is again. Berkeley rages on. I feel like I should get t-shirts made. Not only does it remind me of playing the game in my dorm room, it reminds of when I was poor and made my first post years ago from a Toronto Internet Cafe. Any updated links would be fucking brilliant.

FROM: Rocky McInturff
DATE: Sunday September 25, 2005 -- 2:48:19 am
I loved the TT screensavers my two children were concieved in the glow of the Toxic swamp from my old Performa. I now a have a PC running XP and would give anything to rekindle that fire that my wife and I found in that swamp....will xp run the screensavers w/ the MS patches and if so someone email me for trading options for AD 4.0 or if your feeling charitable just mail them to me....
Thanx in Advance

FROM: Yarr Im a Pirate
DATE: Monday September 26, 2005 -- 12:12:05 pm
hey! :P Where can I download the "Bad Dog!" screensaver? If you know please e-mail me or send the file. :D Oh yea, i have windows xp.

FROM: RedSpy
DATE: Monday October 31, 2005 -- 8:01:55 pm
Looks like the site has gone dead again. Does anyone else hear crickets chirping?

FROM: Sheryl M Fisher
DATE: Tuesday November 1, 2005 -- 12:44:57 am
i lost my cd of afterdark games and my hd crashed. i'm desperate for the games. anyone feel like taking pity on a student/grandma???

FROM: RedSpy
DATE: Tuesday November 1, 2005 -- 2:05:35 am
Sheryl, After Dark Games is just under 38 meg in size. I can send it to you in e-mail, or if you want to send me $3.00 in snail mail to cover the cost of a blank CD & postage, I can copy the CD and mail it to you. Just let me know which you would like to do.

FROM: auditri
DATE: Tuesday November 1, 2005 -- 6:03:59 pm
Hi RedSpy!

I'm back again too.. Great to see that the AD lovers are still out there!
I recall that someone was thinking about doing an emulator, or updated AD engine to run on XP (by slowing the CPU) so it could run all modules.. Did that ever eventuate?
I'm interested in getting a CD copy of all the AD modules/progs you have?
How much?? (maybe you could sell these CD's and by that $50 version of launchpad...)
Let me know..
All the best,

FROM: Grump
DATE: Thursday November 3, 2005 -- 3:21:25 pm
I wanted the original marbles when I started this mission. Managed to find AD and change the ini to install (without reading how to do it.) Had to check up on the compatibility issue. Now its running, but I see AD 3.0 modules are not supported in XP.

Someone should write an engine for these, Im not geeky enough.

I guess theres an openGL version of flying toasters for linux bundled with XScreensavers.

Theres also this for mac users;
After Dark X for OSX users. Has toasters, fish, mower man, etc.

Sucks to be a windows XP user right now.

DATE: Friday November 4, 2005 -- 4:00:54 am
Auditri, I finally got LaunchPad without having to pay that ridiculous $50.00 for it. If you are interested in getting any After Dark programs from me, send me an e-mail and let me know what you have in mind. I'm always open to doing some trading.

FROM: RedSpy
DATE: Friday November 4, 2005 -- 4:01:14 am
Auditri, I finally got LaunchPad without having to pay that ridiculous $50.00 for it. If you are interested in getting any After Dark programs from me, send me an e-mail and let me know what you have in mind. I'm always open to doing some trading.

FROM: Tiger-Heli
DATE: Saturday November 5, 2005 -- 6:14:48 pm
Found After Dark 3.0 Here:

FROM: RedSpy
DATE: Tuesday November 8, 2005 -- 8:25:24 pm
Greetings, everyone. Here is a link to a site with info about getting After Dark programs to run under XP and other higher systems. I hope you find it helpful.

FROM: Tiger-Heli
DATE: Wednesday November 9, 2005 -- 9:29:26 am
Posted some current information here: if anyone from this blog wants to contribute.

FROM: Tiger-Heli
DATE: Friday November 11, 2005 -- 12:18:03 pm
I found a solution for the "Requires Windows 3.1 or Windows for Workgroups" error when updating from AD 3.0 to AD 3.2 under WinXP. (I was overcomplicating it)!!!

For those that arent familiar with it, AD 3.2 adds an option to skip the warning messages about drivers not being installed (which you cant install under XP anyway) and adds a tray icon for quick access to ADs menu. NOTE: The tray icon does NOT activate AD, you still need the main program running (minimized) in the taskbar before any of the savers will show up on the pre-4.x AD versions.

I previously installed the upgrade over my Windows 98 installation and tried copying the entire main Win98 AD folder over the WinXP AD folder. When I tried this, AD would sometimes not launch the modules and often would not exit.

Last night I tried copying the adw30.exe file and the adtray.exe file (and ONLY these files) from the Win98 install to the WinXP folder and it worked PERFECTLY.

It may not be the complete upgrade, but it has given me no problems so far.

(For those that need those files, I can send them to you, as you will not be able to get them unless you have a dual boot system (or even better, dual HDs with different OSs).


P.S. I don't know if this would work for the Totally Twisted version which gives the same error. When I tried to copy my Star Trek TOS modules from Win98 to WinXP (to correct a different problem), AD 3.2 did NOT recognize them and did not work.

I will probably try running the install using regmon and filemon to see exactly what it is doing under Win98!!!

FROM: Tiger-H
DATE: Friday November 11, 2005 -- 12:18:49 pm

FROM: Tiger-Heli
DATE: Friday November 11, 2005 -- 12:44:30 pm
Dunno how I made the blank post - wish there were a way to delete, quote, edit, etc.

I also found a solution (at least it worked for me) for the "Set-up.exe is corrupt" problem. RedSpy clued me in to it when he posted that it also occured on the original floppies, and on E-mailed and downloaded files, but not on files burned to CD's.

For those who don't know what I am talking about - After I downloaded Star Trek TOS and installed it on different machines, I for some reason uninstalled it and tried to install it again. When I did, it went through the install, took the serial number, and then when it started to extract the files, it said it couldn't open the first .zip file and that setup.exe appeared to be corrupt and to contact Berkley systems for support (!!!). It was not a matter of file corruption, though, as a re-download of the file (to a different directory) would still fail.

I also was e-mailed an .img file and the extracted files from the More After Dark module. When I tried to run the extracted files, I got the same error, but when I extracted the image files to a floppy drive, it worked.

It appears that these modules dislike installing multiple times from the same media i.e. the same HD or the same original floppies. What worked for me was copying the files to a jump drive and installing from it. I suspect that it might not work the third or fourth time I tried this, but burning to a CD and installing from there will probably work, if needed.

Unknowns - Nobody has reported this problem with the main distributions of AD (AD 2.0, AD 3.0, etc, so I don't know if it affects them also.)

I don't know if installing from the jump drive or a CD would fail if I tried it multiple times - if it does, it is likely that copying the files to the HD and burning to a new CD will change the volume label and allow it to install, but this is supposition on my part.

FROM: Tiger-Heli
DATE: Friday November 11, 2005 -- 1:20:38 pm
I also have a partial "fix" for not being able to display Planetary Atlas (From Star Trek TOS AD) unless you are in 256 color mode.

What I plan to do is run the module and save screen prints of each planet after the descriptive text has been entered. I will then display these images in the Slideshow module from AD 3.0.

You will lose the "spin" of the planet and the teletype effect, but the main info should be there, and it should be useful.

NOTE that slideshow does not scale the images, so you will need them at your desktop resolution.

I plan to take the initial shots at 800x600 screen resolution as it seems to have the best combination of image size vs. blockiness, and is also the current default for web design content. (Also because images downscale better than they upscale, so 640x480 looks very blocky scaled to 1280x960, but AD changes the text size based on the resolution, so 1280x960 images look blurry reduced to 640x480).

I haven't decided whether I will offer the images re-scaled to another resolution or have users re-scale them ( can do this for all the images in a batch process, so it's not a big deal either way.

If anyone thinks the initial images should be at a different resolution, let me know soon as I don't plan to re-make an entire set after I finish the first one (I think it's like 100 images or sth).

Otherwise, I will post back when the images are available if anyone is interested.

FROM: Mike
DATE: Friday November 18, 2005 -- 3:33:36 am
Would anyone mind EMailing me the Marbles module?

I managed to find a copy of AD 3.0 and it works on my XP comp.

I would GREATLY appreciate it.

FROM: RedSpy
DATE: Sunday November 20, 2005 -- 10:37:32 am
Mike, I sent you the Marbles Module from After Dark 3.2. I hope it works for you. Enjoy!

FROM: christian
DATE: Monday November 21, 2005 -- 11:36:25 am
hello!!! can anyone please send me a free working bad dogs program...
the pet game...i don't know where to get one so please please please help me...thank you very much!!!! ^_^

FROM: Mike
DATE: Monday November 21, 2005 -- 9:58:28 pm
Thanks, RedSpy.

Worked just fine.
Thanks :]

FROM: RedSpy
DATE: Tuesday November 22, 2005 -- 11:05:26 am
Mike, since the first Marbles module worked for you, I just sent you the Marbles module from After Dark 4.1 Deluxe. In this one, the pegs are animated (snow globes, lightning globes, etc.). See if it will work for you, because it's really cool! I hope you enjoy it.

FROM: RedSpy
DATE: Tuesday November 22, 2005 -- 11:07:45 am
Christian, the Bad Dog game is included in the After Dark Games collection, which is sold pretty regularly on eBay. I don't know of any sites that have it for download.

FROM: Tiger-Heli
DATE: Wednesday November 23, 2005 -- 7:30:38 am

I misread your post - RedSpy is correct about the Bad Dog game. If you want the Bad Dog Screensaver, it is part of After Dark 3.0, available here:

DATE: Friday December 2, 2005 -- 7:02:37 pm
Does this help anyone?

FROM: ThyPentacle
DATE: Sunday December 4, 2005 -- 7:46:03 am
Could someone please send me just the nanites saver from the Star Trek: The Next Generation After Dark module in such a form as I can run it on XP???

If it's not possible, no problem, but if it is I would greatly appreciate it. :)


FROM: RedSpy
DATE: Sunday December 4, 2005 -- 10:48:06 am
Thy, the Nanites module was made to run in After Dark Engine 3.2, and will not run under XP. Only modules after Engine 4.0 will run under XP, if you are lucky enough to get After Dark to run at all. However, some people have posted that they have been able to get them to run, so I'm sending you the Nanites module and wishing you luck. Enjoy!

FROM: ThyPentacle
DATE: Monday December 5, 2005 -- 5:42:42 am
Thanks for trying to help me out. Too bad the one module I like best is the one I will not ever be able to get to work. ugh... just my luck! I'll just have to make a Nanite saver of my own. But it won't look as cool as I remember the AD one looked on my college lab PC back in '95. (In between my working times of course. :)


FROM: RedSpy
DATE: Monday December 5, 2005 -- 8:12:21 pm
Thy, the Nanites module will run in a computer with Windows 98. Maybe if you have an older computer, you can set it up and run your screen saver on that one. Just a suggestion.

FROM: ThyPentacle
DATE: Monday December 5, 2005 -- 8:57:00 pm
Great news... got really sad and decided I would try to get this thing to run on XP no matter what it did to me!.... and.... it works now. oh YAY!!

I did it by backing up my system first... installing win98se, installing the Star Trek module, then AD 3.0, then the Star Trek: The Next Gen module.... copied all the installed files.... then restored my system (ghost is sure handy), installed AD 3.0 on XPsp2 and let it change my system files (though later removed the auto load setting), then overwrote all those files in the install directory 'c:\afterdrk' with the copied directory from win98... presto... all modules work and the only nag is the .386 file won't load error when you first run it, which is no big deal.

No bugs in any modules and 256 color mode even works for the Nanites saver as well as the rest that use that mode... oooooooo color cycling. Only drawback is a few of the savers run really really really fast... All the really cool ones I like run great. (borg, nanites, bad dog, flying toasters)

Version of AD I ended up with is the one with the Next Gen module... which I guess is the newest one that works on XP without having to download a big huge file. (on 56k here)

Anyways I'm just glad to see it working... kinda sorta better than nothing. :)

Best to all,


FROM: ThyPentacle
DATE: Tuesday December 6, 2005 -- 7:02:00 am
Final note... you can get rid of the .386 error by copying the file 'ADW30.EXE' from the 3.2 version of AD on top of the previous copies from the win98 install above. It won't be the true 3.2 version, but it has the 'don't show error' check box option and seems to run ok so far.

Now to figure out how to remove it from the taskbar when minimized.


P.S. Sorry if this is a bit off topic, but I'm sure someone, if anyone still reads this post, will find it handy maybe. *pokes the people that wanted to get 'bad dog' to work in XPsp2* ;).

FROM: ThyPentacle [E-Mail]
DATE: Wednesday December 7, 2005 -- 1:02:35 pm
After Dark 3.2 for Windows XP

For those that miss the old Star Trek modules that dont run on XP, this is for you. I got version 3.2 of After Dark to run on XP pretty well. Its not full 3.2, but rather the runner, .dll, and support files for it, but it has the best parts of 3.2 and I think most, if not all 3.2 version modules will run on it fine. It wont go into the display properties box but it does run hidden with a task starter next to the clock, so as long as you turn off your XP screensaver (set it to none) you should be ok. It works perfect on my XPsp2 and I hope you have the same luck with it.

Be sure to read install info on my site fully and enjoy! ^_^

FROM: Ryan Rider
DATE: Tuesday December 13, 2005 -- 11:25:56 am
I wish they would bring back Cosmic Consensus and YDKJ Online!

FROM: RedSpy
DATE: Sunday December 25, 2005 -- 1:18:49 pm
Greetings. Just wanted to wish everyone and your families a very happy holiday season!

FROM: ThyPentacle [E-Mail]
DATE: Sunday January 1, 2006 -- 7:22:20 pm
And to all a happy new year to come as well!

oh, site updated too :)

FROM: julian gascon santa cruz
DATE: Wednesday January 4, 2006 -- 9:56:41 am
I need senior password for Launch Pad Windows 1.5 (IBM). My PC is locked. Can we help me ?. Thank you

FROM: Dan The Man
DATE: Thursday January 19, 2006 -- 10:55:50 am
Hey If Anyone Still Visists This Forum oh THANK YOU Tiger-Heli FOR REVEALING That Site. I Played after dark games in 3rd grade (Now im a 9th grader) it brought back a lot of memories :-) K My question... after dark games has now made a 4.0! with more games! can anyone pleeeese tell me where to download the full version...the demo SUCKS it only has Bad Dog 911, RoofRats And Mowin Manic and U Can oly Play EACh of them 5 times SUCKS!!!! this is my first time on this site and if u tell me or respond i will be gladly dedicated to the site Thankz


FROM: Dan The Man...(Sorry 4 the Long Post!) [E-Mail]
DATE: Thursday January 19, 2006 -- 12:10:38 pm
THIS IS A RE-COPY,WITH E-MAIL ADRESSS Hey If Anyone Still Visists This Forum oh THANK YOU Tiger-Heli FOR REVEALING That Site. I Played after dark games in 3rd grade (Now im a 9th grader) it brought back a lot of memories :-) K My question... after dark games has now made a 4.0! with more games! can anyone pleeeese tell me where to download the full versionon this forum or my email adresss, ( demo SUCKS it only has Bad Dog 911, RoofRats And Mowin Manic and U Can oly Play EACh of them 5 times SUCKS!!!! this is my first time on this site and if u tell me or respond i will be gladly dedicated to the site Thankz OH! check out this cool Multiplayer Online Game Free! (Some Features Need Membership...Money...Pay...Get The Picture? If i get my wish i can tell u some sites that can crack some popular games to unlock the full version (even if it doesn't use the Registration Key System) like...INSANIQUARIUM DELUXE,PERHAPS? cooL gAMe!!

FLYING TOASTERS AWAY!!! (I look forward to anyones next post) Please Keep posting & Checking the site and update it... u gotta a good thing goin here!!

FROM: DaBomb Aka:Dan The Man [E-Mail]
DATE: Thursday January 19, 2006 -- 2:34:44 pm
If U Need too Know The Site To download the 4.0 After Dark Version OH...Its By The Way Sierra Diddnt Kick Off The After Dark Theme, The New Version Tells u "To Play All The Games please Give Us (Sierra) A call At ....I Dont Know the NumberIn Short To Correct Sierra Still Made A 4.0 Version....So Please Crack Hack Or Surf To Find the Full Version...Thankx


FROM: Dan The Man
DATE: Friday January 20, 2006 -- 10:23:47 am
Maybe Nobodys getting The Point...Not To Sound Cold And Forgettful Of Berkley's Past But If Possible Can Some One Just E-mail (Better!) A Setup File For The After Dark GAMES See GAMES......GAMES.....No Screensavers...please....

Da Bomb Will Be BacK...

FROM: Daniel M.
DATE: Wednesday January 25, 2006 -- 10:16:17 am
lo? iF ANN OF U BASTARDS ARE sTILL ALIVE!!! AND READING MY POSTS....K Calm Down :-) I Got Afterdark GAMES....On E-Bay If Any one wants the FULL VERSION Setup File... Email ME!!!!!!!!! Check Em Out

Da Bomb MIGHT....Be Back....D

FROM: Anne S
DATE: Friday February 3, 2006 -- 4:23:41 am
Hi Daniel,

I would LOVE copies of the set up files for the file version. I have been searching and none has appeared on the Australian ebay for the whole 2 years I have been checking!

I check this forum regulary. I was so sad sierra lost the plot, but that is the way of big business. Take over the smaller successful companies then grind them into the dirt, then refuse to release the great programs for sale again. sigh..


PS Happy New Year to All

FROM: Mike_L
DATE: Saturday February 4, 2006 -- 10:34:15 pm
Hi guys,

I recently dug up an old CD of After Dark (3.2 I believe) and had no luck getting it to run under Win XP.

I too remember the wonderful stuff on After DArk, especially the Totally Twisted version.

Anyway, after stumbling across this form, I downloaded AD3 from the link listed above somewhere ( and to my amazement, it installed fine and runs great!
I chose not to modify files as XP doesn't use autoexec.bat etc.
It also warned me that the PC speaker woildn't be used, but on my IBM laptop the sound is fine.

Now, how do I add other modules, like the Totally Twisted (if I can find the disk) or will these not run?

Anyway, tought this may help if anyone is still struggling with AD and Win XP.

Next to try on the desktop..



FROM: ThyPentacle [E-Mail]
DATE: Saturday February 11, 2006 -- 3:36:17 pm
The Totally Twisted modules are available bundled with all the others in the Ultimate 100 module packs on my site. The site is getting far more hits than intended so I pass my bandwidth limits fast, so if the site is down try again in an hour. You can also get versions of After Dark that work on XP. They are 3.2 and 4.0. You need both versions on XP as 4.0 won't run old modules on NT based operating systems. However both my versions run fine together and they both run hidden. (unlike the 3.0 version from abandoneer)



FROM: RedSpy
DATE: Saturday February 11, 2006 -- 7:43:46 pm
Greetings. Just wanted to let everyone know that the 10th Anniversary Edition will also run in XP, although not all the modules will run. I see both the 10th Anniversary Edition and the Disney Collection on KaZaA for free download on a regular basis. Take care and happy trading!

DATE: Tuesday February 21, 2006 -- 6:07:44 pm
Hello all,
My wife and I acquired ' After Dark Games ' when we bought our first and so far, only computer. We've been playing the various games for a number of years now and I'm writing this because I was wondering how many other people know that the programmers of ' After Dark' enabled the games to cheat the player.
The reason they did this is unknown now but I'm sure the truth will be revealed some day. It's bad enough inventing games that can't be won, only played; but when you add cheating to the mix it becomes almost criminal. Discovering this hidden agenda aggravated me but being an adult, I simply shrugged it off and discontinued playing the games. What is truly despicable though is the effect it has on young children.
Children ( and I say this from personnal experience with my own grandson ) expect to be able to win a game if they pursue it long enough and work at it hard enough. When they fail and find they simply cannot win, it is extremely destructive to their emotional make-up. It actually brought my grandson to tears until I sat down with him and explained to him that the games are designed so you cannot win.
Whether it's the extra cards in ' Solitaire ' ( 2 queens of clubs ), the actual slowing down of the mower in ' Mowing Maniac ' as the game progresses and the pursuers speed up; the words in ' Bad Dog' that you can't find in any dictionary, or the false statements in ' Zapper ' that also have false answers.
Shame on the inventors of these games. I only hope that someday you'll feel some remorse for your deeds and beg forgiveness.

FROM: Anon
DATE: Monday February 27, 2006 -- 12:29:41 am
Does Anybody know where i can get a free download for 'You Dont Know Jack Vol. 4 The Ride' ?? Please help i've been looking everywhere and cant find it...

FROM: JoeBlow [E-Mail]
DATE: Saturday March 11, 2006 -- 3:37:29 am
Check out Discordi, a game like Bezerk's "What's the Big Idea?" (later renamed "Cosmic Consensus".

FROM: JoeBlow
DATE: Saturday March 11, 2006 -- 3:38:13 am
oops... at

FROM: El-Tacos
DATE: Friday March 17, 2006 -- 12:57:50 am
Did anyone ever find another site with the Simpsons module since that spanish site went down?

I've been looking for it for days. I'm begging you, if anyone has it, please send it to my email! I'll trade whatever I can.

FROM: RedSpy
DATE: Saturday March 18, 2006 -- 1:07:03 am
El-Tacos, you caught me in a good mood. I sent you the Simpsons Edition. Enjoy!

FROM: El-Tacos
DATE: Saturday March 18, 2006 -- 1:21:30 am
Thank you so much!!! You have no idea how grateful I am! If you ever need anything, just ask!

I still haven't received it, but I'm pretty sure it's because AOL is laggy :P

Again, thank you so much!

FROM: RedSpy
DATE: Saturday March 18, 2006 -- 3:22:39 pm
If you don't have it, let me know, and I will send it again.

FROM: El-Tacos
DATE: Sunday March 19, 2006 -- 10:04:06 pm
Still haven't received it :S

FROM: RedSpy
DATE: Monday March 20, 2006 -- 8:23:57 pm
El-Tacos, I have sent it to your e-mail twice now. Maybe your mailbox is not set to receive large files. I'm sorry you haven't gotten it. I tried. I sent one to your link here, and I sent the second one in response to the personal e-mail you sent me.

FROM: El-Tacos
DATE: Tuesday March 21, 2006 -- 12:15:48 am
This is really wierd because I've sent myself big files recently and it worked fine. Have you ever managed to send such big files with AOL?

Do you have any type of instant messenger? If so, and if you're still willing to try and send it to me, just send me your contact info to this email : . This is my main email but I only have 2 MB space (Hotmail won't upgrade my stupid account), so sending the file to that email wouldn't work.

If you don't want to try again I'll understand though, you've already been nice enough to try to send it twice.

So, either way, I thank you.

FROM: RedSpy
DATE: Wednesday March 22, 2006 -- 2:42:43 am
El-Tacos, I sent you the Simpsons Edition again. This time, I broke it into three parts, so hopefully the e-mails will be small enough to go through to you. AOL handles e-mails up to 16 megs in size, but for some reason the first two times I sent it, it didn't get to you. Just unzip the three files into one folder, and you should be able to install it from there. Please let me know if it works for you this time. If it does, enjoy!

FROM: El-Tacos
DATE: Thursday March 23, 2006 -- 12:00:02 pm
Still not working...

I tried checking my gmail settings and it seems that there is no option to choose weither or not I can accept big files or not.

If you're still willing to try, maybe it will work on my yahoo email :

Hopefully you're still willing to give it a go, but otherwise I will understand.

Either way, thanks alot for the effort and I'm really sorry for all the trouble.

FROM: Eric Burris
DATE: Monday March 27, 2006 -- 3:46:43 am
I LOVE After Dark,,,

Love this blog!

I dont however have a copy of AD, and would love to get my hands on one..... Please, someone, help me get back the mowin man, fish, nocturnes, and of course the toasters!!!!!

FROM: Tiger-Heli
DATE: Monday March 27, 2006 -- 10:49:54 am
Eric, for now see: when it comes back up!!!

FROM: Tiger-Heli [E-Mail]
DATE: Thursday April 20, 2006 -- 10:09:59 am
Or you can see ;-))) Let me know if anything doesn't work.

FROM: CronoMST [E-Mail]
DATE: Thursday May 4, 2006 -- 12:58:23 am
In case anyone is interested, I have sort of unofficially ressurected Get The Picture to the best of my ability (but minus the Fat Chance sequence, which I always disliked). It's a Java app, so it can run on just about anything. I've actually had it up for about a year and a half now. It's not especially busy, but there's usually some people on at night playing.

It's called Words That Follow. It's at if you want to give it a try.

Since it's just a fan project, I don't have the $300 or $400 or so that it costs to get code signing for web applications, so you'll get a scary looking "this program's signature is invalid" message when you load the game, but there's really not much I can do about it.

Hope to see you all there. I go by CronoMST on there as well.

DATE: Sunday May 7, 2006 -- 10:19:10 am

FROM: RedSpy
DATE: Sunday May 7, 2006 -- 10:59:36 pm
Moe, here is the serial number for the Disney Edition:


If that one doesn't work for you, here is a generic serial number that will work for most of the special editions of After Dark:


One of them should work for you. Enjoy!

FROM: Tiger-Heli [E-Mail]
DATE: Monday May 8, 2006 -- 7:28:54 am

You can also get The Disney Collection from my page at ;-))) (Although you have to install the original version with the included serial, but you could then run it under the latest AD engine).

FROM: moe
DATE: Monday May 8, 2006 -- 12:19:34 pm
WOW!! you guys are the coolest!!! it worked---THANKS!!Moe

FROM: Wade [E-Mail]
DATE: Monday May 8, 2006 -- 7:35:25 pm
I was googling around for someone I used to work with at Berkeley Systems and I stumbled across this site. Shout out to Dave, Sean, Steve, the good Dr Hoffman, Greg, Sunil, Big Jane and all the rest who put in time on Rose Street. Much respect to Wes Boyd and Joan Blades, founders of Berkeley Systems and

BerkeleySystems 1993-1995

FROM: Ryan Boney
DATE: Tuesday May 16, 2006 -- 11:04:07 pm
Get the Picture updates? that 'words that follow' seemed like a box wine:bottled wine version, but hey...ill take anything mannn i need a fixxxx....

FROM: CronoMST [E-Mail]
DATE: Sunday May 21, 2006 -- 9:01:13 am
Haha! My game was just compared to boxed wine. That's pretty amusing. If I even come up with a game development group, it'll have to be "Boxed Wine Games." I like that.

It's just me working on the game. It's really one of the few games I've ever managed to finish. I don't have a team of programmers or artists, but I think I've at least captured the basic functionality of the original game (minus all the charm). I'm still working on it, though. :) I've even thought about throwing in some narration. Of course, it would just be me doing the recording, so I make no promises about the quality of that either. Heheh.

FROM: RedSpy
DATE: Sunday May 28, 2006 -- 5:01:42 pm
Greetings. I have every After Dark product ever made for Windows, plus numerous other Berkeley Systems products. I like to trade for games and programs, mostly interested in sci-fi related games. If anyone cares to do any trading, let me know. Happy trading!

FROM: ModusPwnens
DATE: Saturday June 3, 2006 -- 11:49:31 am
Just another random internet person looking for a way to play the old You Don't Know Jack NetShow games. I know most of the questions made it to the games (which I own) but I was feeling nostalgic today and want to play it like I did 10 years ago.

I guess it's pretty hopeless, but maybe this post will help some former employee find this page on Google one day.

FROM: Paperdos
DATE: Thursday June 15, 2006 -- 8:51:30 am
Hi RedSpy, i e-mailed you asking if you would mind sending me the Simpsons. But i don't have anything i could trade with. Trying to get it for my husbands birthday next week, looked everywhere but hitting a brick wall really. Pretty, pretty please with bells on. xx

FROM: RedSpy
DATE: Thursday June 15, 2006 -- 11:43:30 pm
Paperdos, I sent you the CD version of the Simpsons, which does not require registration with a serial number. Simply unzip the file to a temp folder and click the setup icon, and it will install. I hope your hubby enjoys it. Happy birthday to him, and happy trading to you!

FROM: candace
DATE: Saturday June 17, 2006 -- 8:30:22 pm
I heard some people were looking for cosmic consensus! well i found it, its called discordi now!!
come play with me!!!
downloadit at

FROM: RedSpy
DATE: Tuesday July 4, 2006 -- 9:18:27 am
Greetings, everyone. Just wanted to wish everyone and their families a very happy and safe 4th of July holiday!

FROM: Paperdos
DATE: Thursday July 6, 2006 -- 7:20:30 am
Hi, does anyone have the After Dark Scream Saver or The Flintstones?? I'm hooked on after dark now since my hubby got the simpsons, thanks Redspy, he loves it.

FROM: Web Wonder
DATE: Monday July 10, 2006 -- 3:23:13 pm
Hi, i'm new to this so sorry if i go on a bit. I'm desperately trying to get the following if anyone can help me: After Dark, Before Light, No longer Dark, Scream Savers and Still in the Dark.

As far as i've found out they weren't done by berkeley systems. Does anyone have these if so could they be so kind. Or tell me where i might be able to purchase or download these from.


FROM: Merilyn
DATE: Tuesday July 18, 2006 -- 12:48:29 pm
I am new to this site, so can anyone tell me where I can find the Bad Dog screensaver. I have been looking for years and I was wondering if anyone has been lucky enough to find it somewhere.
Any help would be really appreciated.

FROM: RedSpy
DATE: Tuesday July 18, 2006 -- 10:31:18 pm
Merilyn, the Bad Dog program is not a stand-alone screen saver, but an individual module in some of the After Dark collections. You have to have a full version of one of the After Dark programs to run Bad Dog. Just thought I would let you know.

FROM: debbie [E-Mail]
DATE: Thursday July 20, 2006 -- 10:36:00 pm
after skimming over a few of these entries, i've deduced the acrophobia game i once loved (years ago) is no more...but, interestingly, there are LOTS of ex players who are as sad as me about it. In all this time, has no one made something similar? Is there no where like it to rekindle my alphabet madness? Perhaps an online psychiatric evaluation I might fill out while I wonder what to do with the spare time I was hoping to steal from myself....hmmm

FROM: moogs
DATE: Sunday July 23, 2006 -- 6:54:32 pm
i want to install my simpsons one which a finally found but it keeps goiong on about needing windows 3.1 or something :O(

please help

FROM: CoinCollector
DATE: Sunday July 30, 2006 -- 3:37:21 pm
Hi. I'm CoinCollector. I have been reading this for quite a while, and am almost through it. So...yeah.
The other day, I went to Half Price Books (a store that sells lots of things besides books), and searched through the old software, and fount Triazzle: the Rainforest Edition! Yay! Got it for two bucks. It's in very good condition. So now, I have the originals of:

Triazzle:Rainforest Edition
After Dark Games

And recently, I bagged a black Flying Toaster tie off EBay.

FROM: CoinCollector
DATE: Sunday July 30, 2006 -- 3:39:42 pm
Oh, and debbie, There's a game callled AcroChallenge ( which I believe is similar, but I never played the original Acrophobia, so I'm not sure.

FROM: Rossy
DATE: Sunday July 30, 2006 -- 8:21:13 pm
Hi Guys..

AcroPhobia is still out there.. I found it a few years back.. Its currently on a site called 'Uproar'..

(Under Word Games - on the right)

Anyword on re-writing AD for XP/Vista?
Anyone like to join me in trying? :)


FROM: CoinCollector
DATE: Monday July 31, 2006 -- 10:12:40 pm
Yeah, I can't wait until someone writes an After Dark engine that runs ALL the modules under XP and above. I know someone will. Eventually. I have NO programming kills, so....I can't help.

FROM: Paperdos
DATE: Saturday August 5, 2006 -- 12:49:45 pm
Hey everyone. Could someone be so kind as to e-mail me with photos of Berkeley Systems covers so i know what to look out for?
I'd like to see the ones for; X-men screen savers, Snoopy screen savers, The Complete After Dark, ScreenStudio and StarDate. I would be most grateful.

FROM: Paperdos
DATE: Saturday August 5, 2006 -- 12:54:09 pm
Oops, forgot to mention Launch Pad. I've a little boy & he'd love that.
So, if someone could give me photos of these screensaver Boxes that would be wonderful, thanks.

RedSpy August 29, 2006, 1:58 am

Great to see you guys have the Ping back up so soon! I, for one, would like to take the opportunity to thank you for all your hard work, and for giving us a place to rant and rave about Berkeley Systems and After Dark. Hats off and many hearty back-slaps to you, gentlemen.

Tiger-Heli August 31, 2006, 6:12 pm

Just wanted to let everyone know that my site has moved yet again to a more secure host:

C Little August 31, 2006, 9:46 pm

I have a copy of 3.1 Windows After Dark on floppy. I’ve loaded it on every computer I’ve owned since 1993. Lunatic Fringe runs on my XP under DOS, tho the high processor speed makes it a bit jumpy sometimes. It’s still fun anyway.

ThyPentacle September 11, 2006, 8:20 pm

NEW! Download my After Dark Suite all at once! Includes two extra modules: Star Trek The ScreenSaver and Star Trek The Next Generation!

Ron F September 14, 2006, 2:01 pm

Is there a way to install Berkley’s Tweety and Sylvester screen saver on an XP computer? I used to have it on my Win 98 and my grandkids got a kick out of it. Ron

john September 15, 2006, 11:18 am

i have lost my code for triazzle. iam not sure if it is the rainforest version or not .could somebodie help please.

Lorna Maxwell September 16, 2006, 1:14 am

Acrophobia is leaving again!

RedSpy September 17, 2006, 10:28 pm

John, the Rainforest Edition is the only edition of Triazzle released for the PC, although they did numerous editions in board-game form. Here is the serial code for your version:


Make sure you write it down and save it. Enjoy!

Paperdos September 22, 2006, 9:37 am

Hi, would anyone be willing to sell some After Dark / Berkeley system products. I would like: X-Men, Snoopy, Screen Studio, Expresso, StarDate, Launchpad and After Dark 3.1 or 3.2, would pay a reasonable amount for these, plus shipping to the UK. Price would be dependent on condition eg. with box, sealed / not, new, used etc. (FOR WINDOWS ONLY).

Since Windows have stopped doing patches for Windows ’98, they’re not recommending anyone still use ’98 because of not getting updates / virus updates etc. So, for anyone that feels like it’s a waste of time having these, because they can’t run them anymore, i have a good home for them.
So, why not sell them & make use of the money to get something you do want.

Only people who are serious about selling please, e-mail me at

Thanks, look forward to hearing from you.

ThyPentacle September 24, 2006, 7:56 am

Got my After Dark for XP appz back up on a new server if anyone wants em. Free of course.

If you’re after AD 3.2 the version I modded for XP is available in the second download pack for NT systems.

Scroll down a bit on the first page and click the After Dark link on the bottom of the software list. Report any archive problems please.


PS: The host is going through some upgrades and may be down from time to time… this is a temp. condition.

Name September 24, 2006, 10:08 am

The owners of Berkeley Systems stole After Dark from the original author.

Then they started the far left liberal extremist group

MJL October 5, 2006, 11:56 pm

Looking for the Simpsons screensaver for After Dark (Win). Will post e-mail when positive response is posted.


ThyPentacle October 7, 2006, 8:48 pm

OK been through many free hosts and now think I found a stable one?? lol… we shall see…

After Dark for XP is in the ScreenSavers and FreeWare section

JAK October 21, 2006, 10:44 pm

Hey all, been looking over the forum I just happened to stumble upon, and I am looking for a certain afterdark product…but I dont know exactly which one i want/need. I am looking for the After Dark with the customizable Marbles screensaver, Rodger Dodger, and Rock Paper Scissors. I used to Play this/watch the screensavers at school back in the day, and just looking for it again. Is there a product with the screensavers and games (Rodger Dodger game and a few others) together or is one product After Dark Games and another poroduct for the screensavers??? Any help would be great, I am just looking for the names of the product that has all this in it, or maybe links/downloads to get it. Thanks A Ton!

Sister2brother October 27, 2006, 4:26 am

I didn’t even know that the company was no more. My brother wanted to see a screenshot of my desktop and Expresso is part of my desktop because I still use the program.

Boaz October 31, 2006, 10:57 pm

Since berzerk went down a lot of fans of their acrophobia acronym game were let down and had no where to play that game. So I’m posting to let y’all know that there’s a great new web acrophobia game called Acrowars at
Play the addicting acrophobia online!

Mike November 13, 2006, 7:31 pm

Hey guys, I’m wondering whether or not I’ve gone insane…

I’ve been looking over all these old Bezerk games like Acrophobia, Get the Picture, and YDKJ (online), but I seem to remember that my favourite of the bunch was called The Ziggurat or something like that, where everyone would pick an answer to a multiple choice question, and whoever picked the most popular answer would climb a dicerolled number of steps up the ziggurat.

Unfortunately, I can’t find ANYTHING about this game online, though Acro and GTP links abound. It was the best game of them all!

Am I nuts? Does anyone have any more info about it, or know if a new alternative is available?

Thanks a bunch!!

alisha November 15, 2006, 1:14 am

my parents both Worked for the company, growing up as a teen I had all the shirts, promotions etc and we stil own every game they made..crazy I know but the slide in the kitchen haha that was always fun…but not getting shocked on the way down…I remember when they closed that sucked so bad.

Paperdos November 23, 2006, 12:41 pm

Hi, just wondered, does anyone wish to sell Stardate, X-men / Snoopy? Or do you know of anyone that is looking to sell these? If so, could you let me know as i’m looking to purchase them.

Paperdos November 29, 2006, 10:56 pm

Hi, could anyone tell me if Berkeley Systems made The Ultimate After Dark for Windows and for Macintosh? I’ve seen the Macintosh version being sold on Ebay, but wondered if there was a Windows one. Thanks.
Also, i’m still looking to purchase Stardate, Launch Pad, X-Men & Snoopy.

Jasper December 20, 2006, 4:07 pm

Hi, I hope that i recieve an answer. I’m Looking for The Looney Tunes Screensaver of Berkeley System. My CD has broken so i don’t have it anymore :(.
Can somebody mail me a copy of this Screensaver? It will be awsome when somebody will do that!

CoinCollector January 3, 2007, 11:34 pm

A while back, someone by the name of pandora posted a get the Picture remake, Name the Picture.
I just went on there, and just last October, they released the beta version1 During beta, it’s free to play. I haven’t tried it yet, I hope there’s enough people playing it….the message boards only has 25 members….

Well, on one section of the website, there’s animated GIFs and a flash thing you can post wherever you want. It has the HTML code to do it. Help spread the word! get the Picture may be back!

CoinCollector January 6, 2007, 11:06 pm

Ok, I tried Name the Picture, and it’s very nice. Beautiful user-interface. But….there’s nobody on at ALL. I was all alone. The servers are still up, though. C’mon, we gotta’ spread the word. And hurry!

ThyPentacle January 8, 2007, 5:19 pm

Sorry to all those interested in my modded After Dark screensaver installers 3.2xp and 4.0+.

My free web host has been swamped and my 30 gigs of bandwidth is gone for the month already.

So my link above won’t work till the first of next month. (Feb. 1 2007)

That’s the price you pay for me not paying for hosting. 😉


Logan Garland January 10, 2007, 11:43 pm

You guys might want to try Its no Get the Picture but is basically the same gameplay. There is no file to download which is a plus. Just click my URL to goto it.

webfox January 15, 2007, 11:36 am

ThyPentacle –

I just picked up hosting for $22 for the -year- and I’m getting 2tb transfer/month. Oh, and they up your quota weekly by 16GB. Disk space too – starts at 200gb and up by 1g/week. It’s yummy.

It’s from Dreamhost – and use the promo code ‘YELLOWGORILLA’ ( found at )

Alternatively, I’m not using even 1/1000th of my bandwidth. Maybe I can mirror your stuff and tie into a coral cache.

Drop me a line and we can maybe figure something out. I really wanted to get the library of files from Red to offer up, but I sadly don’t have anything to offer him in return except the knowledge that he’d be sharing these classics with people who can’t find them anywhere else.

Waxman January 24, 2007, 3:12 am

Hello All,
I’m looking for the 3rd disk for the Berkeley Star Trek Screen Saver (Windows 1992). I’ve got 1 & 2 and the registration code, but I assume I need the 3rd one for it to operate. Any info would be appreciated. Please help me out.

RedSpy January 25, 2007, 5:59 pm

Waxman, the Windows version of Star Trek only had two discs. The MAC version had three discs. Hope this helps you out.

ansky02 February 7, 2007, 5:28 am

Hey, can someone send me The Simpsons afterdark screensaver?

ThyPentacle February 16, 2007, 9:00 am

OK my site is dead but here is the full After Dark Suite for all who want it…. fully XP ready…. includes ALL working original modules plus two extra addon ones (Star Trek and Star Trek: The Next Generation)… and ALL After Dark versions available for any Windows OS.


ThyPentacle February 17, 2007, 3:24 pm

Sorry, fileho went kaput on me (someone reported file I think)… sooooo…


ansky02 February 23, 2007, 5:48 pm

Has anyone come across The Simpsons module?

araT March 20, 2007, 8:13 am

Wow, thanks so much ThyPentacle – is there any chance of a Vista port? When installing everything runs smoothly until it gets to writing data (after creating unistaller) – it gives the error: “Could not modify the Registry. (#5, Line 32)”



MobiusKlein April 11, 2007, 12:03 am

Hey, I used to work there, and haven’t seen any of this for ages.
Thanks for keeping the toast burnt.
(Did SlowBurn, amongst others. Word to Wutkee & Rat.)

Tholek May 14, 2007, 9:28 am

I would KILL to have STARRY SKYLINE with RAIN and LIGHTNING on my XP laptop! 😀

I only have an old version of After Dark on my old Powerbook 520C, but I occasionally boot the thing up just to remind myself how cool I thought that screensaver was. If there’s a way to have it in XP, please let me know. Maybe there’s a way it can be ported over? From what I see above, the only version aside from Mac that had it was 1.0 for DOS. I’m stunned it wasn’t in 4.0 or th 10th Anniversary.

Please let me know. 🙂

CoinCollector May 27, 2007, 5:35 pm

Tholek, what version would you like on your XP laptop?

Renstanford May 28, 2007, 7:08 am

…lost my CD with AfterDark Collection, sigh.
I still trying to search this

Tholek June 4, 2007, 8:33 am

“Tholek, what version would you like on your XP laptop?”

Any that will run on XP Pro AND has Starry Skyline (and hopefully the Rain module as well). Being able to run on Vista would be nice too, but I’m not asking for the world here. 😀

MadMax June 14, 2007, 3:15 pm

Wow, I hadn’t thought of After Dark for ages. I’d love to have a copy too. Starry Skyline and Nocturnes were my favorites. Bad dog and lawnmower man were good too. Can someone hook me up?

Zianna June 24, 2007, 10:24 pm

I tried downloading the latest Discordi and for the last few weeks it will not connect to the server. Says that it is down or something because of crazy happenings… Is it gone now too? Dicordi email doesn’t go through either. Did they close up shop?

Steven Todd Kaster June 25, 2007, 6:24 pm

I miss the old “Donald Duck Paints” screensaver. Someone should update it, and issue it in a form that is compatible with Windows Vista.

Paperdos July 6, 2007, 2:09 pm

Hi everyone. This could be a long shot but i’ll ask anyway. Does anyone have Berkeley Systems X-Men screen saver and Snoopy screen saver for sale?? Please e-mail me, thanks


Michael July 18, 2007, 7:59 pm

I think it is really amazing that this article is from September 2000. I would like to say that I had After Dark Starter Edition (Win3.1) and when my disk got damaged couldn’t find a new one for about ten years. I hate Sierra for dropping After Dark, and I would like to thank all of you for helping bring back After Dark.

The Flying Toasters Shall Never Die!!!

CoinCollector July 25, 2007, 8:39 pm

Yes, After Dark will be fully revived someday. Someday, someone will write a brand-new engine that can run the modules under newer OSs and we’ll be able to actually use them as screensavers again. It will happen, I’m sure.

Tholek July 26, 2007, 10:53 am

Not soon enough for me. I still want my starry skyline with rain. 🙂

Paperdos September 3, 2007, 5:17 am

Well folks, one more to find, The Snoopy Screen Saver, i really want to buy this asap, so if anyone is looking to sell theirs because they can no longer run it then i will pay to get it. Thanks. AD RULES!!

CoinCollector September 10, 2007, 11:18 pm

Yeah, I guess Snoopy is the only module we’re missing. But I’ve also heard talk of an Energizer Bunny one; was there ever one?

RedSpy September 17, 2007, 8:59 pm

There was, indeed, an Energizer Bunny screen saver. However, it was a stand-alone product, and does not run in After Dark engines.

After dark November 25, 2007, 1:01 pm

I have got a version (.ISO) for anyone that wants one, including Bad Dog, Daredevil dan, Stary Night, and many more

Included are: After Dark
After Dark 2.00
After Dark 3.00
More After Dark

A new exe is used (3.2) to make it work at vista and xp(i am running it on vista right now!

If you want a copy just leave a masage here

Greets, An afterdark Fan

RedSpy December 5, 2007, 5:22 pm

Greetings, everyone. If anyone wants the Snoopy Screen Saver, just drop me an e-mail and I’ll send it to you.

RedSpy December 25, 2007, 6:46 pm

Greetings, everyone, and Happy Holidays to everyone and your families. I just wanted to wish everyone a safe and happy holiday season going into the new year. Take care, and happy trading, everyone!

Sam January 5, 2008, 1:02 am

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Tara January 17, 2008, 2:13 am

“From: After dark
Date: 11.25.2007 08:01
I have got a version (.ISO) for anyone that wants one, including Bad Dog, Daredevil dan, Stary Night, and many more
Included are: After Dark
After Dark 2.00
After Dark 3.00
More After Dark
A new exe is used (3.2) to make it work at vista and xp(i am running it on vista right now!
If you want a copy just leave a masage here
Greets, An afterdark Fan”

I’d LOOOOOOOVE to get a copy, do you think you could email it to me at araT85gmailcom?

Thanks so much!!


Wendy Larkin January 20, 2008, 2:14 pm

I have Triazzle loaded on my machine, but BSIMIX.dll has gone missing. Can’t find it anywhere. Can anyone email it to me? Thanks

RedSpy January 23, 2008, 8:11 pm

Wendy, send me your e-mail address, and I’ll send you the file you need ( If you would like, I’ll send you the entire setup program, or just the .dll file you are missing. Just let me know. RedSpy

David January 24, 2008, 12:44 am

Hey there

Im keen to play lunatic fringe, an after dark module, but I don’t have it. I run XP. Is anyone able to help me out?

Bogdan January 28, 2008, 4:33 am


I have just installed Triazzle from the original CD onto my XP Pro system, and I’ve also received the BSIMIX.DLL and BSIMIX.INI missing error message. May I e-mail to receive the files as well, please?

RedSpy January 29, 2008, 12:31 am

Wendy, send me an e-mail whenever you like, and I’ll be happy to send you those two files. I just hope they will work for you. Strange that the original CD didn’t load them. I check my e-mail daily, so I will get back to you very soon. My e-mail is and I stand by to hear from you.


RedSpy January 29, 2008, 6:56 pm

Bogdan, feel free to e-mail me, and I’ll be happy to share the files with you, as well.


RedSpy January 30, 2008, 9:17 pm

Greetings, everyone. I have the complete line of After Dark products for Windows, so if anyone else is missing any files, drop me an e-mail ( and tell me what you are missing, and I’ll send you the files you need. Take care, and Happy Collecting!


After Dark Downloads February 2, 2008, 5:00 am

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Best After Dark Site on the WEB !!!

You Won’t Be Disappointed !!!

Shalom !!! :<)

After Dark Serial #'s February 2, 2008, 5:25 am

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You Won’t Be Disappointed !!!

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RedSpy February 6, 2008, 5:59 am

Greetings, everyone. I have converted the 8-page Quick Reference Guide into a convenient .pdf file. If you would like a copy, drop me an e-mail ( and I’ll send it to you. Happy collecting!


RedSpy February 6, 2008, 6:27 am

I have determined that the following 3rd Party screen savers will run in the After Dark engines:

The Flintstones Collection
The Rocky & Bullwinkle Screen Saver Show
Jurassic Park – The Screen Saver
Opus & Bill Screen Saver

I have seen people here talking about the Energizer Bunny screen saver, as well. There was an Energizer Bunny screen saver (I have it), but unfortunately, it does not run in After Dark.

I also have a few other multimedia screen savers from the 90’s that won’t run in After Dark, but they are just cool –Twilight Zone, Terminator 2, Beavis & Butt-Head, South Park, etc.

If you would like to see the box art (front & back) for any of these screen saver programs, drop me an e-mail ( and I’ll send the scans to you.


After Dark Engine February 7, 2008, 7:28 pm

My Favorite After Dark Engine has got to be 3.01

Whenever I try the 3.2 Engine it screws up all my AD Modules.

I Love After Dark so much, one my computers still runs under

Windows For WorkGroups 3.11 Just so I can have a stable

Operating System so that AD can work and run flawlessly on.


Triazzle February 9, 2008, 5:09 pm

When loading Triazzle in Windows, the BSIMIX.DLL is load into the Windows/Systems directory. While the BSIMIX.INI is loaded into the Windows directory. The Game Triazzle From After Dark will not operate correctly without it’s Dynamic Library Link in it’s correct location, as well as it’s initialization File.


RedSpy February 28, 2008, 9:39 pm

Greetings, everyone. If you would like to see the original box art (front & back) to any of the After Dark specialty collections (Looney Tunes, Simpsons, Star Trek, etc.), just drop me an e-mail at and I will send scans to you. Happy trading and collecting!


NewBie March 23, 2008, 4:50 pm

Hi Everyone !!!

I went to and read the instructions and downloaded After Dark Screen Saver for my Windows XP Home Edition Service Pack 2 computer.

I got most of the AD Modules to work. It’s really fun playing with those Screen Savers.

After Dark Star Trek TOS comes up, but only the sounder
module appears. All the others modules are in the file but, no modules appear on the 3.0 Engine. I tried the update module button, but it doesn’t seem to update or read those modules. Does anyone have any ideas ???

All the other modules work great !!! My favorites are Disney, Star Trek TNG, Looney Tunes and Totally Twisted !!!

Thank You for this Wonderful Forum !!!

Thanks to for his GREAT Web Page !!! Wonderful downloads !!!



andrewb April 9, 2008, 2:48 pm

There is a new version of acrophobia – at ** – every bit as fun and addicting as the original. And in active development with features continuously added.

Ruffié April 11, 2008, 8:52 am

Berkeley Systems made Lauch Pad. I don’t havthe adult password for this program so that I can go out. Thanks so much.

RedSpy April 21, 2008, 7:59 pm

Here is the password/serial number for Launch Pad:


I hope this helps you out.


RaViN2 April 25, 2008, 9:12 pm

I didnt read the entire thread here so forgive me if this serial has been posted already. I have whats called the “The Complete AfterDark” which was released on 08-24-94. It has a text file on the cd with a serial number of ADC-32659-7016. I hope this helps anyone who has been looking for it. It just sucks that i cant use it on XP/win 2000. Even after messing with compatibility settings in XP, it still wont budge. It was originally made for windows 3.1…or “Windows for Workgroups”; so it says. Was a cool program from what i can remember. Too bad i cant use it 🙁


James H

NewBie April 30, 2008, 2:11 am

Hey, if you want to have After Dark work in Windows XP SP2. Just go to:

I went there and followed the instructions and downloaded the files and it works !!! (Except Star Trek TOS)

Give that site a shot.



docdj July 12, 2008, 11:24 am

I have successfully installed the ST AD version 2.0b on my XP Pro system. All the modules work (starry night runs too fast becase it uses a loop instead of system timer). Right click on the AD.EXE file name in the folder where you installed it (I used C:\AFTERDRK – being a Win 3 program, it doesn’t like long path names and requires a folder name of 8 characters or less) and use these settings:
Compatibility: win 95
Leave the other boxes _unchecked_ or they will affect the rest of your system.
When it loads, go to Setup and put a check on SystemIQ Activity Monitor. Click the minimize button.

I DO get an error message at login that syas the system cannot load the 16-bit program. Just ignore it.

I have not tried any other settings iside ST AD. You can right-click the program name in the task bar to re-open the ccontrol panel.

Add the program to your Startup folder and it loads when you login. Set the timer and it will trip at the right time.
Press the ESC key to exit screensaver mode.


CirothUngol July 19, 2008, 5:22 pm

Hiya Guys!
Ciroth here, and I’m lookin’ to complete my After Dark Collection. Please leave a message right here if you have:

After Dark Midnight Collection
X-Men Screen Saver
Launch Pad Kid-Safe Desktop
Expresso (Date/Calendar Program)
StarDate (ST:TNG version of Expresso)
ScreenStudio for After Dark
Flintstones Collection (live-action Movie)
Jurassic Park – The Screen Saver

(from Asymetrix Entertainment)
Natural States Screen Saver Entertainment
Multimedia Screen Saver

(from Delrina(?)/Amaze!nc/Ant Software)
The Far Side Screen Saver Collection (1994)
The Dilbert Screen Saver Collection (1994)
Opus ‘n Bill On the Road Again Screen Saver

…or any other early to mid ’90s screensavers that were distinctly modular in nature, as I’m trying to assemble the Grand Motherload of After Dark Screensavers. I have the following to offer in return:

(1991-02-20) After Dark 1.00 (Floppy)
(1992-03-04) After Dark 2.0 (Floppy)
(1992-11-16) Star Trek The Screen saver 2.0b (Floppy)
(1993-04-08) After Dark 2.0c (Floppy)
(1993-06-26) More After Dark (Floppy)
(1993-10-06) Disney Collection Screen Savers, The 2.0d (Floppy)
(1993-12-13) Marvel Comics Screen Posters 2.0d (Floppy)
(1994-05-02) Star Trek Screen Posters 2.0e (Floppy)
(1994-07-11) After Dark 3.0 (Floppy)
(1994-08-02) Simpsons Screen Saver, The 3.01 (Floppy)
(1994-10-13) Snoopy’s Screen Savers (Floppy)
(1994-10-13) Star Trek The Next Generation Screen Saver 3.01 (Floppy)
(1995-03-28) Stephen Blickenstaff’s ScreamSavers 3.06 (Floppy)
(1994-04-11) Looney Tunes Screen Savers 3.06 (Floppy & CD)
(1995-07-27) After Dark 3.2 (CD)
(1995-08-08) Totally Twisted After Dark Screen Saver, The 3.2 (Floppy & CD)
(1995-08-25) Disney Collection Screen Savers, The 3.2 (CD)
(1996-09-13) After Dark Deluxe 4.0.0 (CD)
(1996-10-15) After Dark 4.0.1 (CD iso)
(1998-09-28) After Dark Games (CD)
(1999-07-29) After Dark 10th Anniversary Edition 4.0.0 (CD)

(1996-05-14) Still in the Dark (Dir)
(2001-05-23) No Longer Dark (Dir)

Before Light (CD iso)
H R Giger Screen Saver, The (Floppy img)
Pink Panther Screen Saver Entertainment, The (CD iso)
Rock & Bullwinkle Screen Saver Show, The (CD iso)
Tenchi-Muyo! Ryo-Ohki The Screen Saver (CD iso)

…as well as All of the You Don’t Know Jack PC Titles (that’s 14 or 15) and a huge plethora of other Console, Arcade, Classic PC and Abandonware titles.

Thanx! And remember, trades only Please.


bieda2 July 21, 2008, 9:47 pm

Hey guys,

Does anyone have the launchpad game they cud send me??
Or just screenshots or sounds??

It wud be great to have a go at the game again =]

Thanks a lot


MacLover August 22, 2008, 12:51 am

Does anyone have The Simpsons module for AfterDark?

I really miss them (my favorite was the Itchy and Scratchy one.)

Please put it on MegaUpload or something

Dale September 2, 2008, 6:58 pm

I have an old ThinkPad running Win3.1 and love the screensaver on it, which claims to be After Dark, but when I bought After Dark on a CD years ago, that one wasn’t included.

Does anyone know the name of this screensaver? It is a jungle scene, in which all the trees and animals are in black sillhouette, shown against a colored backdrop that changes to show different times of night. That is how I remember it, but I haven’t looked at it in some time.

The scene moves slowly across the screen from right to left, and as you watch, birds appear and flutter around, or there is a leopard up on a branch, or a boy walking across the scene, or monkeys jumping around in the trees.

The screensaver is so peaceful and relaxing that, I confess, I have been holding onto this otherwise useless, very old computer just so I can view the screensaver from time to time. How I would love for someone to recreate it or create something similar for WinXP! (Oh, ok, or for Vista, since I suppose that one day I’ll be forced to switch to that, but I don’t want to!)

nobody September 8, 2008, 7:35 pm

In answer to the above, the scene you are describing is from one of the disney After Dark packages featuring characters from the Jungle Book.

I can’t remember the package or the exact name of the module in question, but I’m reasonably sure it is found among those in the Disney package.

Hope this helps. As has been said above, there is a site where you can download the Disney package.

Jessica M September 22, 2008, 5:02 am

Hi! Just got AD 3.2 to run on Vista Home Basic (thanks to pent and TigerHeli!!!), but Starry Night and some other starry mods have big black vertical bars ruining the whole effect. Any clues as to what is going on?

steve November 5, 2008, 10:07 pm

Anyone found the AD Simpsons for PC.
Been looking everywhere.

lilguy December 15, 2008, 4:58 pm

I still have johnny castaway screensaver and it works with vista!!!

cat January 16, 2009, 7:54 am

I have searched for days for BSIMIX.DLL and/or Triazzle download. I came across this today. Would someone Please help me? My email is:

Many thanks, Cat

Tom January 30, 2009, 8:42 am

Hello people

I am searching for No longer dark collection. It was free collection of 45 after dark modules and all links are dead.
Please send me e-mail or write to this thread.

Thanks for help.

have found some AfterDark 3 modules on Emule

The Simpsons module is installable under XP with Windows 95 compatibility, one file
is corrupted, but the install continues and succeeds. You should not let owerwrite the system files.
The Scream module was little tricky. I used Windows 3.11 in dosbox and copied the folder Screams
to my Windows XP installation.
The modules are working very nice.


Guillermo February 1, 2009, 11:58 am

Damn! this thread has been going for a long time indeed. I remember when I first saw Sorcerer’s apprentice on a friends computer and I thought “Well, is this cool or what!”. I never got around to have this software and my first computer (the one I finally claim for my own use) had XP and I really already had forgotten everything about this little piece of software. Now I have Vista and I’m saddened to see it’s highly incompatible. Well, it’s true other software exists that better serves the pourpose, nevertheless I think it’s important to make it compatible with newer OSs so that at least from a graphical standpoint it endures forever (what I mean is to keep the video and eliminate interaction, dull as it may be). Unfortunately I lack the proggraming skills to do it myself. Hey, BTW, sorry for all gramatic and spelling errors within the post, I’m not a native speaker.

DarkLord February 1, 2009, 10:23 pm

Hello I have found the “No longer dark”(EADS) free collection of 45 After Dark screensavers. You can download them here:
Remember that you must have a copy of After Dark program.


neldamarie February 26, 2009, 5:00 am

well i guess i am not crazy, because i did not want to upgrade my computer if i could not use Expresso. Now I have and I use OS10.5 and I have never found a calendar since then that I want to use…tonight i thought I’d see if I could find something and I found this forum and I remembered Star Trek and well I totally agree with everyone. What a great company and we still want them! wow , not many companies can say that.

DarkLord March 31, 2009, 7:08 pm

Hello people. I installed after dark 4.0 on Windows 7. The Starry night module is functional but the other modules from 4.0 collection aren’t. They write only message “Unable to load selected module: \Windows\” at Starry night background.
Did someone managed to run them???

DarkLord April 5, 2009, 9:16 pm

Amazing After Dark 3.2 XP runs on Windows 7 beta !!!

DarkLord April 22, 2009, 8:37 pm

Wow. I have installed the Windows 7 build 7077 and AD 4.0 Plus runs like a charm :-).

A nice picture with Bad dog

Aanen April 24, 2009, 11:09 am

Razzle Dazzle Root Beer!

Tholek May 13, 2009, 8:21 am

I’m still here!

Can some one PLEASE provide a step by step on Vista 32-bit installation of 3.2 or any later version of AD that will run on Vista 32-bit and can run STARRY NIGHT/SKYLINE, RAIN/RAINSTORM (w/lightning) and possibly ZOT?

So far, I have found these sites:

The second would indicate 3.2 can run all those modules on XP, and the first site says that XP version can run on Vista, as a screenshot above would indicate. I cannot sucessfully install that version, however.

The original installer failed at 95%. Then I had to kill the process. I tried again, and when it happened, I went and ran the update.exe anyhow. That seemed to complete, but the failure of the original exe meant no program shortcut folder in start menu except for the tray icon in startup.

Even with that, after the reboot, with the program running, it won’t display the screensaver! Nothing happens when idle or when clicking demo.

This is all after running the install as-is and then with anti-virus off, in XP compatibility mode and as administrator.

Help! I want Starry Night and Rain (together) on my Vista PC!!!

I’m also leaving a similar comment at:

If you can help, please post to both. Thanks!

DarkLord May 15, 2009, 8:50 pm

TO: Tholek


I don’t know, if this helps, because I managed to run it in Windows 7 but
– UAC disabled
– I have used the preinstalled AD 3.2 XP collection from my previous posts
– I ran the setup with administrator privileges(full install into C:\AFTERDRK, write to the system files, no restart)
– I applied 3.2 update
– restart PC
– first or second time it throws an error, but then it will work

If you succeed, let us know.


Tholek June 25, 2009, 3:26 pm

Hi again.

Firstly, I forgot to say, but I did have UAC off during previous install attempts (disabled it a while ago), but things still did not work.

However, I just used the preinstalled version from the rapidshare folder above rather than the tigerheli versions, and IT WORKED! That is, except for SOUND! 🙁

The newer modules are fine. They have sound. Yet, from past experience, I know that the more basic Starry Night (or was it Starry Skyline then?) had crickets chirping, and Rainstorm has rain noise with lightning. At least it did on my old Mac Powerbook.

Right now I have 3.2XP running in MultiModule with Starry Night, Rainstorm and Zot! and there’s NO SOUND AT ALL. Additionally, I only added Zot! because lightning in Rainstorm DOES NOT WORK. It only flashes a white bar across the screen. I assume this is a symptom of issues with the modules being designed for an older system, since the rain is pretty fast now on a contemporary CPU and Vista.

Zot! is a poor replacement as the original Rainstorm lightning was far better with well-defined yellow forks that didn’t pass through or in front of buildings. (I tweaked Zot! transparency and it’s just not the same)

From what I’ve read, I’m guessing no, but I still have to ask: Is there a way to slow performance of old modules?

In the install info there’s references to buffers and the like, and I wonder if there’s some way to introduce some kind of lag that would slow them down. I’d like Rainstorm’s lightning back.

Also, and I know this is the least of my problems, Starry Night has no star quantity control that I see. The buildings look the same, but there’s too many stars, and the falling ones are too frequent. (Also, some are big and pass in front of some of the buildings. It looks like Armageddon!) Again, this may be a difference between STARRY NIGHT and STARRY SKYLINE if there is a difference at all, but I liked the more sedate bright Manhattan skyline with rain and the odd lightning strike.

Overall, I’m still very pleased with it working to this extent, and I appreciate the help.

Thanks again!

Alisha September 13, 2009, 5:58 am

wow, i sit here, and i rember berkley systems way back in the day….. we owned all the games. My dad worked for them the office was awesome …and yes the guy from you don’t know jack really shaved his head. They were bought out in 2000.

Paul November 23, 2009, 10:40 am

Do we have any ex Berkeley Systems people here? It was quite an experience – unlike any other place I’ve worked. Yes, there really was a circular slide to get from the second floor to the first. The idea was copied by Macromedia (the people who invented Flash before they became part of the Adobe family) when a lot of Berkeley Systems people ended up at Macromedia. There were a couple versions, but I was the original voice for Bad Dog.

Glenn Sugden March 1, 2010, 12:31 am

For what it’s worth, Star Wars Screen Entertainment used (a modified version of) the Intermission engine, and not After Dark.

::Glenn Sugden
(SWSE developer and designer)

SerraNicole July 24, 2010, 8:04 pm

I have After Dark for Windows 95 version 4.0, but cant get it to run on my windows vista PC. I still have the manual and regis number from when i bought it. i really liked the screensaver that was the foggy pc screen and a finger would come up and write in the foggy screen what ever txt you wanted. Does anyone know what I need to do to get this cd to workd on my pc? I also have an xp, and vista basic pc too.
thanks, Serrajn

DarkLord January 14, 2011, 7:48 am

Hi Serrajn,
you definitely need patched version, look for it in this thread, it worked on Windows 7 for me.

al February 6, 2011, 3:31 pm

I have the after dark CD. all the screen savers have ad ext. and are password encrypted. Anyone know the password I can use?????

Anne April 24, 2011, 10:03 am

After Dark should be rebuilt. If anybody has, or is interested in doing so, send me an e-mail. This is 11 years old. Wow.

shiyal May 31, 2011, 1:47 am

hi Anne i want the after dark can you give me that?

nelda August 4, 2011, 9:53 pm

I would give anything for that calendar..I kept Os8 for years just to keep the calendar for my staff c=scheduling..everything else sucks. Couldn’t someone update that?

Geoff Inman September 12, 2011, 8:22 pm

for all of you wondering about where to play the Old Bezerk (berkely systems) Games like Acrophobia, Carbon copy games has a New Clone. Check it out at Word has it that they are also in the works for other Berkely Systems clones.

Kathabrams November 12, 2011, 5:17 pm

I have the original disks for After Dark and More After Dark for Mac, System 7. Obviously, it’s long ago and far away since I could run it, but I still miss it. Is there a version anywhere that will run on Mac OSX (10.6.8)?

Ali December 3, 2011, 2:06 am

I’m slowly starting to regret my move to a 64 bit system . . . I sincerely doubt even patched AD will run on my Win7 . . . any advice at all? I miss my screensavers from back when I was a little runt, letting Zot! run all night long, because I loved that module so much

older, I got twisted, and I want to torture mimes again.
I may have to see if I can get an old junk laptop, throw 3.1 or 95 on it, just so I can run some AD

you can contact me at if you have a solution for me

JimmyJ December 30, 2011, 11:52 pm

I’m running Star Trek (AD2.0b) with sound and everything working on Windows 2000 SP4 using a VirtualBOX VM on top of a 64bit version of Mac OS 10.6.8. As it turns out, AfterDark version 2.0b is pretty rugged across various OSes. But on a modern Mac, the 16 color EGA graphics are a bit tiny/fuzzy. If there was no sound it would be annoying.

I’ve just upgraded to AD3.01 running Simpsons and installed it over the Star Trek install: Star Trek still works with sound, Simpsons works but with no sound. Between the AD2.0 and AD3.0, new developers took over and changed how the program accesses system devices. The Simpsons device driver ADW30.386, which includes sound, is a VXD that won’t run under NT/2000, from what I can find there’s no workaround, for Win2K at least. The Simpsons 256 color VGA graphics are very nice and make up a little for no sound.

The VirtualBOX VM is a great way to run a 32bit OS under a 64bit OS. The 3 main VMs won’t properly run a DOS/Windows environment such as Win3.1/DOS since they’re optimized for flat addressing. Some versions of VMs run Win98, but not optimally.

Apparently some folks have Win3.1 running under an older version of DOSBOX, but not the latest version. Both VirtualBOX and DOSBOX are free VMs but you still need the license and media for the client OS.

JimmyJ December 31, 2011, 8:36 pm

Here is an article from 2005 about tweaking AD4.0 (WinXP) and a discussion in comments about running various versions of AD, including some links (some are active, most aren’t).

Here is a webpage from Bill Stewart’s website (the co-author of AD1.0 and AD2.0 for Windows and Star Trek module) with some history and download links for the original Magic, and Magic2000.

The Star Trek screensaver is a fabulous program, and still stands up graphically and aurally on a new Mac (on Win2K under VirtualBOX VM). Some of the graphics are fuzzy, but many are crisp and show up well on a new Mac high res screen. The Star Trek design is so breathtaking that sentimental tolerance overcomes any shortcomings.

Both the Star Trek and Simpsons include the “Starry Night” saver, but with the timings of modern CPUs, the meteors are very fast. The timings are an issue with a few of the animations from both versions, but overall there’s no problem. Still, getting “Starry Night” to run on Mac OS 10.6.8 using a Windows VM has a nice irony since the AD for Mac won’t run on Intel Macs, apparently.

anthony March 2, 2012, 6:32 pm

Does anybody know why is down? it is the remake of cosmic conensus and i want to play this game again!!!.

auditri May 21, 2012, 6:13 am

I think a ‘new’ AfterDark would be a great project for a ‘Kickstarter’.

Carol July 25, 2012, 9:37 pm

I would also like to see a new afterdark because i think people would like more entertaining screensavers for their computers.

Justin August 3, 2013, 3:17 am

You no for over a decade as one of my fondest memories of the early computer days was playing flipside games especially virtual vegas. The format and hoyle style multiplayer actions was honestly regardless of old graffics to this blows any other gaming site. Take a break from vegas go over and play spades, hearts, chess and more.
Will they ever bring it back i would do and pay anything to bring it back. When the put that message “elvis has left thw building” it went downhill from there before you no it the whole flipside uproar and virtual vegas was finished. I dont understand how such a great idea killer concept for free and believe me all hours of the night the lobby was packed and there was always a full table to join in. Everyone was social they had funny quotes like “oh gnarly” and “pant…pant…pant” it was just all around just an awesome pass time. I havent found anything that even comes close to that concept.
Please enlighten me what the hell happend?? There was no recession money was pumping pretty steadily. Why did they let it go? Why didnt they charge id pay 3 times more then what i pay for these crappy apps nowadays. They had it all every game imaginable single player games you can win prizes in and private chats private tables a lobby EVERYTHING!
Is there any shot of that comming back?
Is there anybody out there that might have some demos or somethin that mabye I can pay a graffic designer to create a bigger and better version.
Email me cos i dont no if ill check back on this blog here. Just for the longest time wanna relive the most awesome memories of my early years.
Im suprised theres no Wikipedia article or anything.
Please enlighten me!

Paul January 19, 2016, 12:18 pm

And here is After Dark in CSS. Enjoy.

DarkLord February 10, 2016, 10:38 am


I’ve uploaded my collection of AfterDark stuff here:

OdieDog October 27, 2016, 8:26 pm

DarkLord, thank you sooo much for that link! I lost it last year and failed to find it again, earlier this year I found it! Thanks again! 😀
Also, even though the Daily Ping finished a LOONG time ago, this place is STILL being posted in! AWESOME! 😉

Odie Dog April 1, 2017, 3:25 am

I made a short article about After Dark on my site. Enjoy. (also has MANY links to download it from lol ;)).

Odie Dog April 1, 2017, 3:26 am

It’s NOT an april fools joke btw (really).

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