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December 8th, 2000

The Joy of Soy

About a month ago, I was at a project meeting and pizza was ordered in. In addition to the usual complement of cheese and sausage, and just plain cheese, a soy cheese veggie pizza was present. I instantly thought it would be awful, but didn’t even try it.

So last night while grocery shopping, something urged me to at least try soy milk. Maybe it was the fact that my boss is a vegetarian, maybe it’s because Ryan bribed me, who knows. I figured I’d go with chocolate milk, since it’s one of my favorite beverages.

You know what? It’s pretty good. In fact, it’s very good… I had an actual taste for the stuff a few times during the workday yesterday.

While I’m not about to go veg (chicken is far too tough for me to give up), I wouldn’t mind trying soy milk as a substitute for cow’s milk. The downside is the price: a quart of the stuff cost me $1.99, and it’s $2.09 through Webvan. Compare that to a gallon of milk at the (high) price of $3.29. Maybe that money goes towards the website, I dunno.

In any event, I encourage you to at least give it a try. It’s really not that bad. -pm

Posted in Food and Beverage

FROM: Robert
DATE: Friday December 8, 2000 -- 8:30:04AM
I, too, know the pull of chicken, Paul. She is a harsh mistress.

Another surprisingly good veggie dish is the bean curd home style you can get at any Chinese restaurant (they're all the same). It's all squishy and tasty, and it's doesn't fill you up in the bad way a lot of chicken does. That's especially important for a glutton like me.

FROM: Ryan
DATE: Friday December 8, 2000 -- 9:10:25AM
Since becoming vegetarian, my intake of soy has naturally increased. Seriously -- it's quite amazing what they can do with soy-based products... the sausage links and breakfast patties are unreal -- they taste so good. The downside of the meat-substitute products like that is that they're high in sodium (though a few recent large studies have concluded that sodium is not really connected to heart disease and high blood pressure except in people that are "sodium sensitive" -- about 20% of the population).

I also enjoy the Silk chocolate soy milk... quite good, though sometimes there is a tad of an aftertaste. Soy milk is a good substitute for those with lactose intolerance, too.

FROM: Robert
DATE: Friday December 8, 2000 -- 9:14:16AM
Morning Star's veggie dogs and veggie corndogs are also pretty good. I lived on them last year at school. The best thing about them, however, is the abscense of that icky real hot dog aftertaste.

FROM: Chris
DATE: Friday December 8, 2000 -- 11:45:38AM
huh huh funny I'd probably say more but I'm trying to get in the christmas mood, but i'm not

FROM: Robert
DATE: Friday December 8, 2000 -- 11:47:46AM
C'mon, Chris, smut is always in season. So give it to me! That's right, I want you to GIVE IT TO ME!!!

Now back to the issue at hand...

FROM: Barbara
DATE: Friday December 8, 2000 -- 2:19:23PM
The imagine foods' Rice Dream or Soy Dream are also good non-dairy beverages (I like the vanilla). Unfortuately Webvan doesn't carry that brand, but Whole Foods does and I'm seeing more and more at "regular" grocery stores.

FROM: Ryan
DATE: Friday December 8, 2000 -- 2:34:56PM
Oddly, Barbara, Giant (a major chain in the VA/MD area) carries two or three different brands of soy milk. That works out well, especially since the closes Whole Foods/Fresh Fields is 30 minutes away.

FROM: Robert
DATE: Friday December 8, 2000 -- 3:40:02PM
Rice Dream "ice cream" sandwiches are good. So are Tofutti's.

FROM: zac
DATE: Friday December 8, 2000 -- 7:44:09PM
forget the soy, I enjoy chocolat, drugs, booze more drugs and a good chinese.

FROM: Matt
DATE: Sunday December 10, 2000 -- 2:11:37PM
Balance is the way to a healthy diet. I may get a minor cold every 2-3 years. I attribute that to healthy living and spiritual cleanliness

FROM: Robert
DATE: Sunday December 10, 2000 -- 3:59:11PM
Matt--Don't discount your monthly colonic!

DATE: Thursday April 24, 2003 -- 1:28:18 pm

FROM: Alex
DATE: Thursday April 24, 2003 -- 1:29:47 pm
I just had Morning Star's "Chik patties" which would replace the "real" chicken patties...they're DELICIOUS!!...They have the same great taste and they're good for you!!...I think everyone should try eating soy, at least once!!...It's worth it!!

FROM: Ryan
DATE: Thursday April 24, 2003 -- 3:39:36 pm
I wouldn't necessarily say they're "good" for you -- they're still highly processed and as with many frozen foods (Morningstar especially), they're high in sodium. But they do have several other obvious benefits (no animal flesh, lower in sat fat, etc.) that make them worth choosing over the real thing.

FROM: jk
DATE: Thursday April 24, 2003 -- 3:43:56 pm
Please don't eat them, but do try soy candles. They are nearly soot-free and better for people with allergies.

FROM: Sarah
DATE: Monday June 30, 2003 -- 8:04:38 am
I'm hooked on soy really makes you feel like you've nourished your body.

FROM: Dave Walls [E-Mail]
DATE: Monday June 30, 2003 -- 9:14:56 am
I had a craving a few weeks back for chocolate ice cream, so I went to the supermarket, but found that the market had a problem with the Ice Cream coolers, and most of the ice cream was mushy.

So, as I was walking out, I passed by the health/veg section, and saw Soymilk Ice Cream, in chocolate. I ended up getting some.

It wasn't that bad really, as it tasted like a rich chocolate brownie, but it really made me thirsty. It was a nice change of pace, but I can't see it replace ice cream/frozen yogurt in my life permanently.

FROM: Bill
DATE: Monday June 30, 2003 -- 5:10:40 pm
I've heard from reliable sources that Soy Milk is detrimental to the male prostate. I used to drink Soy Milk, but have change to Rice Milk from my concern about postate cancer. Rice Milk is also lactate and gluten free. I make my own Rice Milk thereby reducing the cost considerably, it costs me about 30 cents a quart. As far as I know, Soy has no ill effect to a female.

FROM: Ryan
DATE: Monday June 30, 2003 -- 9:19:20 pm
Bill -- From what I've seen, there's a lot more evidence that soy is benficial in the fight against prostate (and other) cancers. Here's one example of a Loma-Linda study.

FROM: Bill
DATE: Tuesday July 1, 2003 -- 12:27:36 am
I appreciate your input Ryan. The information I received was just this year (2003) from a Chiropractic College graduate who was required to take several personal health classes. It was from these classes that he was informed of the prostate cancer danger. There was no warning against any other kind of cancer, just to the prostate. This comes from information being taught of recent. The Loma Linda study was done in the year 2000. I'm inclined to think that maybe further studies have been done since the Loma Linda study and the latest findings warn against the consumption of Soy Milk by a male individual.

FROM: Ryan
DATE: Tuesday July 1, 2003 -- 12:52:33 am
If you can get a citation for that study (so that I can take a look at the scope of the study, the funding source, etc.), I'd be interesting in seeing it... thanks!

FROM: Bill
DATE: Saturday July 5, 2003 -- 12:19:21 pm
Hello again Ryan>
I've been out of town, excuse the delayed response. I've had an opportunity to talk again with the chiropractic graduate. He is now claiming there is no cancer scare, it's just that the estrogen levels in Soy are not good for men as it tends to cause men to develop breasts. It is most harmful to older men but can be influential to all ages. I apologize for the erroneous cancer information.

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