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July 19th, 2005

A Browser Feature I’d Like to See

I love tabbed browsing, especially within a MDI like Opera. But one thing I find myself doing a little too frequently is closing a tab that I didn’t mean to close. Fortunately, Opera has a great multi-level “undo” function for this, but I’d still like to be able to set a flag for a tab that says, “Don’t let me close this tab without confirmation.”

I wouldn’t want to be asked before closing every tab, because that would just get annoying. But if there’s one tab I want to keep open for an extended time, I’d like to help ensure that I don’t close it by accident. For instance, there’s a message forum or two that I like to check frequently, so I like to keep the tab open. But 75% of the time, when I’m done reading it, I’ll close the tab rather than minimize it. That’s when a “don’t let me close this tab” function would come in handy.

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FROM: Paul
DATE: Tuesday July 19, 2005 -- 10:06:12 am
This could/should be expanded into a "freeze tab" function, where the tab's placement would also be fixed. Can't close it, can't move it, but easy to toggle.

FROM: heather
DATE: Tuesday July 19, 2005 -- 10:35:39 am
so, before I download and install and basically change my life for the better, which is better - Opera or Firefox? Anyone???

FROM: Paul
DATE: Tuesday July 19, 2005 -- 11:25:02 am
I say "Try 'em both."

FROM: Chris [E-Mail]
DATE: Tuesday July 19, 2005 -- 2:42:12 pm
There is a Firefox extension that restores a closed tab, but it doesn't work in the last couple of versions.

FROM: Ryan [E-Mail]
DATE: Tuesday July 19, 2005 -- 4:42:58 pm
Heather -- I'm with Paul. Give them both a shot. Either way, you're better off than with IE.

DATE: Tuesday July 19, 2005 -- 8:38:49 pm
I have heard of this and many of the people around the office have tried it. I have never used it, but the consensus here in the office is that the Firefox browser is the better choice, One of the main reasons is that it has become a little more mainstream than the Opera browser. The address for Firefox is:

I use Firefox almost exclusively. There is the occasional web page that is written with Microsoft object and will only render in IE, so I keep it around just for that. Otherwise, it is Firefox all the time.

FROM: heather
DATE: Tuesday July 19, 2005 -- 8:58:32 pm
so far I like the ease of set up (pulled all my stuff from IE) and look of the foxfire after I set up my browser. I'm lazy and it's been easier to set up the way I want with out having to read the instructions...

FROM: Deeporg [E-Mail]
DATE: Thursday July 21, 2005 -- 10:34:23 am
Foxfire does me justice but I never seem to use the tabbed feature so much. I use Firefox mainly for the purpose that it's more efficient (and open source) and the main point: It's not IE!

FROM: Merle [E-Mail]
DATE: Friday July 22, 2005 -- 12:20:26 pm
I've been using Opera from the 3.x days, so that's my browser of choice -- I'm used to it. That said, you'll see far more JavaScript errors and broken sites...

...because they're quite extreme in sticking to standards, while FireFox actually did some non-standard things because IE did, making it look like a better browser.

I'm a standards sort of guy, and go out of my way to not patronize IE-specific sites and tools. But I would guess that the average user just wants things to "work", and should choose FireFox.

And I agree with everyone who says "it's not IE". That, right there, is reason enough to just pick one at random!

FROM: Ryan [E-Mail]
DATE: Friday July 22, 2005 -- 3:54:51 pm
Merle -- Things have gotten significantly better with Opera. These days, I'd say 298 out of every 300 sites I visit work perfectly. Only on very rare occasions do I have to fire up Firefox (and even rarer occasions, IE).

FROM: Merle [E-Mail]
DATE: Saturday July 23, 2005 -- 3:10:28 pm
Ryan: you're probably right. I've been sticking with Opera5 for a long, long time -- mostly because in v6.05 they dropped the Alt-A/Alt-R shortcuts for accepting or refusing cookies on the cookie popup. I'm a freak, I want to see *every* cookies that sites put up (aside from about a dozen trusted sites). You can hit Escape, but for sites with tons of cookies you can hit it once too often and stop the load.

I do use O7.5 for yahoo email and livejournal (because I have to, they don't work in lesser versions). And I love the F12 popup!

I'll probably try O8 some day. Once I get a new computer. Unknown how it will run on a P2/400 under Win95.

As for locked tabs: I fully agree. This is a problem I have often, where I keep a window open for later consumption (weeks later) and accidentally close it. I now use bookmarks for things that have been open for a whole week.

(I use a bookmark manager, Linkman, for all my normal bookmarks -- browser bookmarks are only for quick-pick things and "locked" things)

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