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July 15th, 2000

Henry Lee Lucas

In high school I did a report on serial killer Henry Lee Lucas. This guy was an absolutely fascinating case — at one point he confessed to 600 murders. Then, he recanted all except for one of them.

Police from around the country brought in their unsolved cases and Lucas confessed to them after being bribed by the police (he was the only prisoner in his jail to have a TV in his cell). Lucas confessed not only to murders that were physically impossible (ie. two different states at the same time), but he confessed to cases that were made up.

After all was said and done, Lucas was linked to 11 murders, including his mother’s. He’s had a number of stays of execution, which is rare in Texas, the state with the most inmates on death row. There are also a number of police that are under fire for having manipulated Lucas in the ways they did, to shut cases that should have never been shut. But Lucas, the uneducated son of a prostitute and a quadruple-amputee, managed to not only use the police once he had been captured, but he utterly confused them at the same time.

For more on Henry Lee Lucas, watch Henry: Portrait of a Serial Killer, or check out the ODP list. -ram

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FROM: Robert
DATE: Sunday July 16, 2000 -- 12:20:37AM
I don't think "Portrait of a Serial Killer" is actually supposed to be about Henry Lee Lucas as much as it was inspired by him.

Overall, it's pretty overrated in my book. All, except for that scene where they kill the family...
That was rough.



FROM: Ryan
DATE: Sunday July 16, 2000 -- 2:04:12AM
Henry: Portrait of a Serial Killer is based mostly on the life of Henry Lee Lucas (his best friend in the movie was Otis Toole, as in real life) and he dated/killed his cousin, etc. etc... a pretty disconcerting movie, either way, I thought.



FROM: Josh
DATE: Thursday March 8, 2001 -- 9:54:13AM
I just want to say that I'm also doin a school report on Henry Lee Lucas and you're the only source I've seen who says his father was a triple amuptee. Check here. This is, by far, the best source I've seen so far. http://www.crimelibrary.com/serial2/lucas/



FROM: Ryan
DATE: Thursday March 8, 2001 -- 11:27:13AM
Josh -- Actually, quadruple amputee... I can give you an actual reference to use for your paper if you want. I just have to the check my Henry Lee Lucas biography at home...

Thanks for passing that link along. Looks good.



FROM: Rachael
DATE: Monday March 12, 2001 -- 2:14:44PM
I think that Henry Lee Lucas was a sick and confused man. What his mother put him through was disgusting but that still does not give him the right to murder his mother or anyone else for that matter. Is it really true that he killed John Walshes son from the fox t.v. show america's most wanted?



FROM: Ryan
DATE: Monday March 12, 2001 -- 4:07:08PM
Rachel -- I think it goes without saying that he was sick and confused -- one doesn't usually murder someone without something a little loose in his head.

Lucas is accused of killing Adam Walsh, but according to this page, Lucas says it was was Otis Toole who killed him.



FROM: Matt
DATE: Monday March 12, 2001 -- 7:42:22PM
America's Most Wanted is dope!



FROM: Robert
DATE: Tuesday March 13, 2001 -- 10:18:16AM
Wasn't John Walsh on a campaign to have Otis Toole put on trial for murdering his son?



FROM: Robert
DATE: Tuesday March 13, 2001 -- 4:45:12PM
I just saw on Headline News that Henry Lee Lucas died in prison either yesterday or today.

There have been a lot of "famous" deaths announced today--Morton Downey Jr, Robert Ludlum; probably others that haven't even caught up.



FROM: Ryan
DATE: Tuesday March 13, 2001 -- 8:06:23PM
Robert -- Wow? Lucas died? I hadn't even heard that (I did hear about Morton Downey).

Here's CNN's report.



FROM: Robert
DATE: Tuesday March 13, 2001 -- 8:18:11PM
Ryan--I've been home sick all day so I had the time to notice.

The CNN story is weird for two reasons: 1) who ever uses the term "mass killer"?
2) W commuted a death sentence? Whuh?!



FROM: Ryan
DATE: Tuesday March 13, 2001 -- 11:37:05PM
Robert -- Yeah... it's kind of strange that Bush would do that for Lucas, who was convicted of 9+ murders and screwed with Texas police for years, while refusing to give any sort of extension to Gary Graham, who was convicted of one murder with what was considered by many to be shady testimony of a single witness. While I'm not saying that one or the other was any more or less worthy of the death penalty, there's a case for favoritism here.

Incidentally, I believe "mass killer" refers to random killing sprees whereas "serial killers" follow a pattern and have a particular type of victim.



FROM: Robert
DATE: Wednesday March 14, 2001 -- 12:50:09AM
Ryan--Actually, I was thinking "mass murder" was the more popular term. "Mass killer" almost makes him sound like poisoned Tylenol.



FROM: Ryan
DATE: Wednesday March 14, 2001 -- 8:50:10AM
Robert -- Yeah, "mass killer" is kind of an odd term. I've heard it used before, but not very frequently.



FROM: Mona Martin
DATE: Wednesday March 14, 2001 -- 9:19:57PM
It is so hard to understand why a terrible murderer like Henry Lucas, is made a hero. my god, what is this world coming to? In our town, he passed a store late one evening, that I was managing by myself to go one half mile further to kill and rob mr. mc Daniel (our she rriff`s father) it was on a rural hwy, the only two store`s within mile`s. How fortunate for me. Since I am a female, one can`t help wonder what they would have done to me? Mr. McDaniel was a very nice person. When I watched the news tonight (our sherriff was being interviewed, the son) I could see the saddness in his eye`s. It devastated this family, the victim`s should have the celebrity, not the cold sick murderer.During this time another incedent took place.The owner of a jewelry store and, pawn shop, was found with his throat slit from one ear to another.His 13 year old daughter discovered him. Good ole Henry and O'toole was suspected of that one too. Why gorify an animal like those two? Then we wonder why are young,are killing each other!

Make`s you proud of our new President, too. I wonder if he is going to conduct our country, with favoritism as he did as Governer of Texas, when he gave Henry clemency. Why should we feed this sicko, because the Gov. decide`s it is ok. The motivation is just about as obvious as the nose on his face. If we discontinue making hero`s out of these creep`s as was done for Ted Bundy, maybe some of these unnecessary killings would stop. What kind of an example is this for our children. unfortunetly, there are many children,that have justified emotional problems (time bomb`s just waiting to go off) this celebrity that is given to person`s like. I decribed earlier, would tend to motivate a young sick mind. Using a web site that appears to be devoted to Luca`s, almost praising him for being calculating, is certainly a good way to continue the pattern of killing, innocent people, uselessly.

Mrs. Martin



FROM: Ryan
DATE: Wednesday March 14, 2001 -- 9:36:39PM
Mrs. Martin -- I'm sorry to hear about your loss at the hands of Henry Lee Lucas, but please understand that I was by no means making a "hero" out of him. He was an animal, made so in part by his incredibly rough childhood, and what he did was disgusting. But ignoring him is worse than discussing what he did... this way, we can learn about him and people like him. There is no harm in that -- there is no glorification in that.

Thanks for writing.



FROM: Marissa
DATE: Friday March 16, 2001 -- 1:40:11PM
WOW! I was just reading a book "The Serial Killer Letters." So creepy. I'm very interested in Criminal Psych, And I have to wonder if Lucas really did kill "Orange Socks" Even more so creepy, the way Lucas signs his letters:
"A friend in Jesus, and your friend in life." My heart goes out to all the victims and their families - of the Lucas crimes and others. It's so sad that lives are wasted, and cut short. I strongly believe in What goes around comes around. Anyone who hasn't read the book I previously mentioned should -it's quite an eyeful. It's very sad - yet it opens your eyes to the society we live in.



FROM: Brandy
DATE: Monday April 23, 2001 -- 12:59:06AM
i JUST started doing a report on him and I was confused about the post that said he died. Is he dead or is he still alive?



FROM: Ryan
DATE: Monday April 23, 2001 -- 1:13:11AM
Brandy -- Henry Lee Lucas died a little over a month ago.



FROM: Georgia
DATE: Wednesday June 13, 2001 -- 11:24:37AM
Henry Lucas got off to easy..We look forward to he being executed..He killed my mother in law Mrs. Rich and a year later killed my husband cause of a heart attack..The last 19 years ive learned how to deal with it but he should have suffered more than he did and put everybody else through the suffering.He was disgusting and just nasty..My grand kids never had the chance to know Granny Rich or Bo Rich because of Henry Lucas..I hope he suffers in hell where hi is..Nothing can describe the pain My family went through cause of Henry..Thats all I have to say..



FROM: Richard
DATE: Monday January 13, 2003 -- 10:53:41 pm
I read where David Lee Lucas died on 3/19/01 in his cell at the Ellis Unit of Texa's Death Row. That would have made him 64 y/o. Does anyone know the cause of death or if an autpsy was done?



FROM: Kyle Broadiaus
DATE: Tuesday April 22, 2003 -- 11:38:31 am
So Henry died in April of 2001? I lived in the dallas area for 20 years of my life and my father used to get his hair cut with now president Bush as Bush seemed to have a soft spot for Henry... " Lucas isnt crazy..psychchotic and emotionally disturbed yes" is the way he put it.I myself am an author and I do alot of study about serial killers and behavioral science.

People want to talk about how these serial killers bring nothing but pain and evil into the world when the serial killers are kind of doing us a favor.The media brings so much negativity into society these guys, girls, and transvestites do what they do because of what the world is forming them into.As Lecter once said we covet, covet by seeing the things we see everyday in real life..

Lucas had a mother who cheated on her husband (the only person who loved henry) and made him watch her have sex with these other men and if he wouldnt watch she would beat him senseless.As well as curling his hair and making him wear a dress to school, beating him everyday of his life and telling him how worthless he is..i mean in all seriousness what is that going to do to someone with psychological problems to begin with?

We need these killers to give us something that the media dosent create out of government issues and lies.Son of Sam was a slightly retarded satanist who left his mark in New York...

the Zodiac started in california and to this day is still one of the biggest mysteries in all of the world creating copy cats like Heriberto Seda, the new york zodiac or sickos like John Wayne Gacy and Richard Ramirez.The fact is society needs serial killers, otherwise society would just be on a constant following of the government and lets face it, the government is boring.

For those of you that lost loved ones to the actions by serial killers i mourn your loss...but dont use that to have an excuse to complain we have democrats for that.



FROM: morgan
DATE: Wednesday April 30, 2003 -- 2:08:24 pm
Hey Henry Lee Lucas was a discusting and sick man . He said that sex was one of his downfalls.
when i was a freshmen i had to do a report on henry firs thing i found out was abouthim killing his mom and what she did to him that wasn't right . that's probably why he didn't finish shool



FROM: morgan
DATE: Wednesday April 30, 2003 -- 2:13:13 pm
oh by the way is that true , robert, did henry really die on the 12/13? i thaught he died along time ago



FROM: Ryan
DATE: Wednesday April 30, 2003 -- 4:50:20 pm
Once again, yes, Henry Lee Lucas died in March 2001.



FROM: ??????
DATE: Thursday May 8, 2003 -- 9:58:15 am
Henry Lee Lucas was an interesting but dicusting man. I learned alot of things while doing a report on him. the only information that i can't find about him was the victims and their MO's. do you know where i can find that?



FROM: ??????
DATE: Thursday May 8, 2003 -- 1:50:53 pm
I need this info a/s/a/p so if you know where to find it please get back to me .



FROM: Ryan
DATE: Thursday May 8, 2003 -- 2:07:52 pm
Don't hold your breath.



FROM: BW
DATE: Sunday July 13, 2003 -- 10:48:53 pm
try doing a web search,
NinComPoop



FROM:
DATE: Saturday November 29, 2003 -- 10:53:50 pm
OTTIS & HENRY WERE BOTH VERY SICK BASTARDS



FROM: Linsi Mcbride
DATE: Monday March 1, 2004 -- 12:24:50 pm
I think that Henry Lucas is a very sick man. He had a bad choldhood but that gave him no reason to rape and kill people or to have sexual intercourse with animals!!!! He deservied to die a long time ago!! It is just helpful to know that he is gone from here now!



FROM: Ragna [E-Mail]
DATE: Monday March 22, 2004 -- 8:25:05 pm
You bastards. Richard Ramirez is not a sicko!! I hate you all.



FROM: CM
DATE: Tuesday May 18, 2004 -- 2:48:33 pm
Crazy world we live in. The crazier you are and the more people you kill, the more "interesting" you become. Seems like twisted backgrounds play a role, but what about Bundy? That guy had a normal upbringing. Lock the doors, kiddies.



FROM: Black Cat [E-Mail]
DATE: Sunday May 23, 2004 -- 7:56:29 pm
"the victim`s should have the celebrity, not the cold sick murderer."

There is a HUGE overpopulation problem on your little rock. And I for one applaud Lucas and all those like him. Yeah, he caused pain. But who said that Life was anything else?

Life is pain. Anyone who tells you otherwise is selling something.

Untill we next meet I will aways be yours --- Black Cat



FROM: Kelly Rich
DATE: Sunday August 15, 2004 -- 9:57:48 pm
Henery killed my Granny (Katie). I can tell you I know the pain that he has caused and the life time of woundering why. But there is no anwser. Many children threw the years live battered and abused lives many much worse than Henery . I feel that it was not his mother or his dresses or Henery that caused him to not care anymore but the reaction of everyone around him. The taunting of other children and the turning heads of adults. I have watched for years as his stay continued. and never felt anger. Henery never got the life he longed for. He lived in jail having to relive his life everyday because of people like you . I thank you for that. All he wanted all his life was to die but not by his hand.He wanted it to be uncontrollable . well it was he died by the hand of God. As far as the stories , papers and books none of them hold the turth in full. Life is what you persive it to be . I lost My Granny because of a sick man but instead of telling you about him I will tell you about Granny Rich. She was a wounderful loving woman. I remember going to her house and she always had dozens of animals. She would tell me stories and brush my hair as a child. She was not a wealthy woman she lifed poorer than many. but she was full of love and life. She had many children and they would not take the time out to care for her in har time of need . They chose to hire a man , with little knowldge about him to live and be a companian to her. That is a love I wish to never know. To have children that would rather pay than love. Granny I loved you then and will always love you and hold you close to my heart



FROM: Kelly Rich
DATE: Sunday August 15, 2004 -- 9:57:59 pm
Henery killed my Granny (Katie). I can tell you I know the pain that he has caused and the life time of woundering why. But there is no anwser. Many children threw the years live battered and abused lives many much worse than Henery . I feel that it was not his mother or his dresses or Henery that caused him to not care anymore but the reaction of everyone around him. The taunting of other children and the turning heads of adults. I have watched for years as his stay continued. and never felt anger. Henery never got the life he longed for. He lived in jail having to relive his life everyday because of people like you . I thank you for that. All he wanted all his life was to die but not by his hand.He wanted it to be uncontrollable . well it was he died by the hand of God. As far as the stories , papers and books none of them hold the turth in full. Life is what you persive it to be . I lost My Granny because of a sick man but instead of telling you about him I will tell you about Granny Rich. She was a wounderful loving woman. I remember going to her house and she always had dozens of animals. She would tell me stories and brush my hair as a child. She was not a wealthy woman she lifed poorer than many. but she was full of love and life. She had many children and they would not take the time out to care for her in har time of need . They chose to hire a man , with little knowldge about him to live and be a companian to her. That is a love I wish to never know. To have children that would rather pay than love. Granny I loved you then and will always love you and hold you close to my heart



FROM: Black Cat
DATE: Monday August 23, 2004 -- 9:10:59 pm
Hey Kelly,

Welcome to the real world. Although I dont really see why you had to post twice. Did I hit a nerve? If you want think of it like this: Lucas sent your Granny to whatever her version of heaven was. I say you should give him a big fat kiss right on the cheeks for doing her a favor.

Life is pain. Anyone who tells you otherwise is selling something.

Untill we next meet I will aways be yours --- Black Cat --- Future serial killer



FROM: Black Dog
DATE: Tuesday August 24, 2004 -- 3:23:34 pm
Hey Black Cat, self-proclaimed "future serial killer":

"Life is pain." No shit, Sherlock.

Are you saying that serial killers are motivated by the desire to relieve their victims of worldly pain? That's a new one on me.

So, when Jeffrey Dahmer was tying people up in his apartment, gutting them alive and taking Polaroids of their terrified anguished expressions during the last seconds of life, as their guts spilled out onto plastic tarps, you say he was doing them a favor by finally delivering them to peace?

If what he did was such a humanitarian service, why hide it? Why not just open up a murder shop on the corner next to the flower shop and across the street from the estate planning attorney?

You are a fucking idiot.

Paul? Ryan? Dumbass mode?



FROM: Black Dog
DATE: Tuesday August 24, 2004 -- 3:49:18 pm
Black Cat is:

About 20 years old, from California, female or gay male (perhaps either depending on the mood--given that most serial killers are males with deep secrets, I would say gay male who is tortured by being gay), web-page designer, loves "Lost Boys" the movie, especially the sound track and is into cryptozoology and gaming. Also intrigued by necrophilia and paintings and depictions of death and decaying animals, and particularly human fetuses. Describes paintings of rotting maggot-ridden babies as "beautiful."

When he/she grows up, wants to be: A serial killer!

Only limited by: propensity for being a jackass in dark mascara.



I say it's time for the quickest dumbass mode ever.




FROM: Ryan [E-Mail]
DATE: Tuesday August 24, 2004 -- 10:25:26 pm
Ask and ye shall receive (though it's far from the quickest).



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