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February 24th, 2003

The Googling of the Web

Everyone, lately, has been talking about Google’s purchase of Pyra – the makers of Blogger. While that is newsworthy and should be interesting to follow, there is something I find more troubling about the way Google has become synonymous with the web. It all comes down to the idea of what the web is.

Now, I will preface by saying that we all have different ideas of what the web is. Other than a good resource for porn and MP3s, that is. With Google, it becomes an easy-to-use research tool. That’s great, but the dark side of this power is not knowing what lies out there.

As you know, Ryan and I run a site called The Daily Ping (you’re reading it right now.) Nearly two-and-a-half years ago, Ryan wrote a rather serious Ping about progeria. If you peruse the comments, though, you’ll find something disturbing: a littany of people writing papers on progeria looking for pictures. A few of those requests are strictly for laughs (and are a nice respite), but the majority are serious.

It makes me wonder what the hell happened to intelligence. Ryan even went so far as to put a message on the very top of the page telling people that he had no resources for pictures, or “help” on a report. Yet the requests keep coming and coming.

I blame this squarely on a lack of education. The problem is coupled with a total lack of “netiquette”, which seems to have gone entirely forgotten. If one actually took the time to read a page, instead of blitzing to a form and posting rubbish, one might truly find something useful – or, more importantly, find that the resource she found wasn’t suitable.

But that’s rarely the case. The web is becoming one big AOL chat room – and good resources, really good ones, are becoming deluged with ignorance. Combined with the 12-year-old boy theory, the web has become a lot less useful and worthy in some ways.

Maybe Pinger Matt had it right in the comments for that 12-year-old boy theory Ping. He said, “Once you get past the idea that the internet can ‘do a lot more’ you will be happy. The internet is for porn, e-mail, and obnoxious comments.” He might be right.

In that case, I’d like to tell people in the progeria Ping: “Yo momma.”

Posted in Television, Movies, and Music

FROM: Game Show Man Joe Van Ginkel [E-Mail]
DATE: Monday February 24, 2003 -- 12:18:48 am
Dear Lord, you weren't kidding. That's a lot of stupid people. Sadly, a lot of the online game show fan community had to make a mass exodus from one online meeting place to another due to same stupidity (albeit in a different form) that manifested itself on the progeria Ping. What's really disturbing is the fact that people are still posting requests like morons.



FROM: Dave Walls [E-Mail]
DATE: Monday February 24, 2003 -- 12:37:21 am
Netiquette went out the window as soon as AOL went to an unlimited fee, and allowed any idiot who had a phone line and 20 bucks the opportunity to flood the net with garbage.

I blame AOL more than I blame Google. AOL "dumbed down" the net more than Google has. Hey, at least Google helps people LEARN more on the net...I know people who have used AOL for years, but still don't have a frickin clue on Netiquette, or how to really get anything out of the net without typing in all in caps.

The problem really digs deeper, as the general lack of common sense (or the breeding of stupid people, as I refer to it) around America over the last ten years is the main problem, but if we're just pointing to the problems over the net, aim your missles to Vienna, Virginia, and send AOL to AO-Hell.



FROM: Scott Marks
DATE: Monday February 24, 2003 -- 9:23:25 am
I've been seeing this on Usenet for a couple of years. Back in the old days, you would see that lack of netiquette mostly in September as the new Frosh were arriving at their campuses. It's more like a permanent September now...



FROM: Greg
DATE: Monday February 24, 2003 -- 10:56:02 am
I'm doing a school report on stupid people on the net. Could you please send me some pictures or other info you might have. If you did I would think that "your" cool. "Thanx!"

(I was tempted to type this all in CAPS but I just couldn't take it!)



FROM: Chris [E-Mail]
DATE: Monday February 24, 2003 -- 11:54:16 am
Sort of like all the people that come to ODonnellWeb and stend me email asking for autographs, pictures, etc.

Dave hit it though. It's all AOL's fault. I remember back in 95/96 before AOL could even get you on the net. USENET was a wonderful place, and spam was a still a processed meat product.

Of course, there was no Ping back then...so it wasn't all good.



FROM: Greg C [E-Mail]
DATE: Monday February 24, 2003 -- 12:48:02 pm
I used to have this problem with my old website, videogames.org. It's sort of there, but I sold the domain two years ago when I got married ($2500, it paid for the rings, the honeymoon, and other various sundries).

I'd get email from kids all the time, "Could you please send me all information you have about the Atari 2600? Thanks!" and invariably I'd respond, "You realize of course that you can access it all. It doesn't take much time. But I do have a question for you: why do you blindly believe every word I say? Do research and earn your A."

I think that teachers aren't telling kids exactly WHAT the internet is... a conglomeration of computers, hooked up together so you can access whatever information people decide to put online. It's just another resource.

Nobody is using the Weekly World News as a resource for writing school papers, so why should they believe random websites? The mind boggles.



FROM: Dave Walls [E-Mail]
DATE: Monday February 24, 2003 -- 1:04:52 pm
Greg makes an excellent point. If I believed everything I read online, I'd be working from home, making $100K a day, and my schlong would be about 3 feet long by just taking pills.

Unless you are researching from britannica.com, or using encylopedia-style software, consider whatever is on the net as opinion until you can get it confirmed by a reputable source.



FROM: Rob [E-Mail]
DATE: Monday February 24, 2003 -- 2:50:52 pm
It's sort of weird that, back when I was on GEnie and Prodigy, you didn't see this sort of thing so much. Now, it's true, those services weren't nearly as widespread as the Internet is, but there was a fairly large user base with a wide variety of ages. Sure, you'd get your occasional jackass, but it just didn't seem to be that widespread. There were flame wars and such, but those seemed civil compared to how things are these days. Even in my early days on the net, things weren't like this.

I know online gaming is going to be a bad place to sample from. But even a few years ago, things seemed to be a bit better than this. There was good-natured ribbing and some insults, but it all seemed to be in good fun. Nowadays, playing BF1942, the common response to getting killed by your opponent is to call them a faggot or a fag or to get downright racist with them.

Basically, it really sucks that the Internet isn't just for us geeks anymore.



FROM: dave
DATE: Monday February 24, 2003 -- 5:10:03 pm
Have you soon the new AOL ads? The ones that say "Searching with AOL is improved...now with Google!"

What?...they couldn't use it before?






FROM: Robben
DATE: Wednesday February 26, 2003 -- 3:56:53 am
Dave Walls nailed it squarely on the head with his "any indiot with a phone line and 20 bucks a mo." and "netiquette went out the window."

I used to look forward to friends from away getting a computer/internet connection for some good ole' fashioned correspondence (what email [french for enamel] can be good for). My latest friend to do this has fallen into that same old trap, and insists on sending me his 'new jokes' he finds. I have since blocked his email address...

Lord Jeesus, stop wasting bandwidth, people! If i get another frickin' chain email from a 'friend', i'm gonna unplug my computer from the web, or change my address and not tell anyone. I'm tempted to write a chain-netiquette email, but for some reason, i doubt IT'd get around the world to the ones that neeeed to read it.

Thanks for letting me rant.



FROM: Robben
DATE: Wednesday February 26, 2003 -- 4:04:37 am
... and thanks for letting me misspell idiot (indiot) too... Got so mad, i typo'd. Sorry.



FROM: Teena
DATE: Thursday June 5, 2003 -- 10:02:26 am



FROM: Teena
DATE: Thursday June 5, 2003 -- 10:06:27 am
i wanted yo know why you cant show any pictures of progeria? i have a big project due today in like 10 min, can you please help me by sending me some good pictures of progeria? PLEASE?



FROM: Ryan
DATE: Thursday June 5, 2003 -- 11:54:20 am
I'm pretty sure that one was serious.



FROM: Marcus Mackey
DATE: Thursday June 5, 2003 -- 1:12:33 pm
In truth, I can't just blame AOL for the phenomenon... as much as the urge is there. That'd be like blaming Napster for the piracy onslaught as some do, or blaming Xerox PARC for making the personal computer so damn easy to use.

Some people are inherently going to struggle with computer usage, no matter how easy it is for the "majority". That said, they deserve to have an easier front-end to the internet. With the advent of broadband, connecting to the net doesn't require AOL really anymore because once you have a dedicated broadband connection, all you need is to launch your browser. All you need is a broadband router/modem, DHCP, and a web browser and e-mail client. Hell, half of the providers have a configuration script for Windows/Mac that sets up the DHCP for you once you have plug (a) plugged into socket (b) and the modem/router plugged into your wall or power strip. Just double-click on the installer once everything is hooked up... and voila... done. You're ready to get online and spam some messageboards.

The internet, like everything, is getting easier to use...

Yet that isn't the problem. The real problem is one that transcends the internet. That problem is "morality" and the lack of the idea of conviction, the lack of education, and ultimately the lack of consideration for others. We could blame the "Me-era" 1980's more for this than we can AOL; a timeframe when everything became self-centered and ignorant of others... and led to the onslaught of suits against each other, because noone can fess up to their own actions.

Morality isn't necessarily a "natural" phenomenon; because it's based around a majority and how that majority thinks. I mean, in cannibalistic cultures... eating people is considered a delicacy. Soooo.... the fact tha=0.9e moral majority worldwide tends to stick to animals and plants; that's what keeps us from slaughtering each other and stops Oscar Mayer and Eckrich from serving up processed human meats.

So, the real point is... there's a lack of conviction being brought to youth's awareness for their actions, and a "TOTAL" lack of educating today's youth to be respectable, kind, considerate, and to love their fellow man, woman, and child. Columbine stands as one testament to this, but there are many other atrocities that stem from this same problem, committed by young and old... and no I don't blame Quake III or Doom or Marathon or Halo or Unreal or Half Life for this. If you are... then you need to pull your head out of the sand and fess up for your own ignorance.

On the lighter side of things, is the "Progeria" pings, followed up by the occasional ping that gets out of control... like the annual return of the "Highschool Pranks" ping, etc. etc.

It's not AOL's, Compuserve's, or Earthlink's fault... anymore than it was Napster's or KaZaA's fault that you leeched $2,000,000 worth of new singles. They're a tool to conduct legal or illegal actions with... much as a VCR, Audio Cassette recorder, DVD-X software, or an astute user can rig a ReplayTV to be a piracy tool. The devices aren't the problem, it's the end users and how or why they use them... and it's how the end users percieve morality on an educated front that changes the face of the human race's moral majority.

It's not anyone's fault other than our own, as a human race, because we fail to grasp the synonymous definition of the quintessential word that sooooooooo many choose to defy.

That word.

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3 entries found for respect.
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Main Entry: 1re·spect
Pronunciation: ri-'spekt
Function: noun
Etymology: Middle English, from Latin respectus, literally, act of looking back, from respicere to look back, regard, from re- + specere to look -- more at SPY
Date: 14th century
1 : a relation or reference to a particular thing or situation
2 : an act of giving particular attention : CONSIDERATION
3 a : high or special regard : ESTEEM b : the quality or state of being esteemed c plural : expressions of respect or deference
4 : PARTICULAR, DETAIL
- in respect of chiefly British : with respect to : CONCERNING
- in respect to : with respect to : CONCERNING
- with respect to : with reference to : in relation to

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Definition courtesy of Merriam Webster On-line.



FROM: a;rak
DATE: Tuesday October 28, 2003 -- 7:33:12 pm
Hey people that are writing, NO ONE CARES WHAT YOU SAY, STOP TAKING SO MUCH SPACE!!!!



FROM:
Paul
DATE: Wednesday October 29, 2003 -- 9:06:46 am


Someone doesn't know how to properly close tags.



FROM: sarah
DATE: Thursday November 13, 2003 -- 5:02:17 pm
what is ur problem peps



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